Matt, Wouter, John, Gary, Robi,

Thanks everyone for the input.

Regaring wings in racing:

I understand the reasons behind the choices made and respect them.

Regarding wings for recreational sailing:

I think one more factor not mentioned is that greater leverage can translate to better control, particularly when sailing singlehanded in heavier air/waves. Added control adds to enjoyment in these conditions. It also adds a margin of safety.

Regarding over loading the boat's structure:

I was a little concerned about the loads on the boat as you point out but but I guessed this would not be an issue for two reasons:

1) They would be directed through the main beams which is the strongest part of the hull

2) If used for only singlehanding (which is when they would be most useful and what I personally was interested in)I doubt the loads on the boat could even come close to to the loads generated by doublehanding without wings.

Regarding limited additional leverage:

I would agree that the additional leverage isn't huge, but I think the leverage I am getting is far greater than what you calculated Wouter. This is becuase the wings on the H17 extend closer to 18 inches beyond the hull sideways. Also, since they are raised, when the boat is heeled, the actual offset is greater due to the geometery. Lastly, I think that the raised wings would allow you to trap lower (getting more of your weight outboard) without dragging your butt in the waves furhter adding beneift in heavier air sailing.

Regarding burying wing tips in the waves/water:

Since the wings on the H17 are raised, I've never seen this happen. You'd have to be heeled so far that you're going over anyway. Now I've never sailed a lightweight cat with spi in heavy conditions so I really don't know if it would be more of a problem in those conditions.

Regarding setup time:

On the H17 you can put each wing on or take it off in about 10 seconds.

Regarding wing weight:

Well I haven't weighed them, but they're incredibly light (either that or I'm incredibly strong ).

For those of you who've never sailed with wings, you should try them before you discount them.

Jerry