Thanks Wouter, but Paul is curently beating me all to often recently and this has also had an effect on my decision to ditch Little Feat for a more competitive boat. Problem is that unless I make some serious money in the next couple of months I don't think I'll be able to afford the trip to Zandvort what with the new F16. I guess that I'll probably have to make do with our TT events next year which I think will be Mumbles (May) Saundersfoot (June) Weymouth (July - August) Isle of Sheppy (?) Datchet (September) Grafham (October) and I mustn't forget a family holiday.