Gary

Thanks for those tips... perfectly obvious reading it but if you have never thought about those issues you are gonna get stuck at some point and I must admit I have never thought about it that way. I really feel the need now to go out on a calm day and deliberately turtle my cat to try these techniques out. It would have to be done with a support boat of course. Might wait till the water gets a little warmer though...brrrr, lol.

Thanks again Gary