I think you're right John, imagine trying to race with a rating of 0.97 <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> We'll have to employ a few more clowns in this Circus. Still if it's anything like Datchet the F16's won 33% of the races against the 'A's on equal handicaps.