That is what I am saying, when he can take off underpower and land underpower I will be impressed. You can make a brick fly if you strap enough rockets to it. Look at all those motors he has on that thing.

I looked over that page and it doesn't say much about abilities of this machine, it says that he can fly level but nothing about climbing??? Can he gain altitude?

Once you go cat you never go back! Nacra 5.2 (Elsies)#1499, running an inter17 spin!