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Formula 18 ht in Switzerland #10128
09/05/02 12:46 PM
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CLUB NAUTIQUE DU LAC DE JOUX 18 AOUT 2002









N° V Yst Série Equipage Club M1 P1 Pts



1 516 98 VENTILO 18HT VAUCHER-CARDENOSO CNP 1 0.0 0.0

2 227 95 TORNADO RUSTERHOLZ-HEUSS SVO 2 3.0 3.0

3 512 98 VENTILO 18HT ZUND-ROTACH CNV 3 5.7 5.7

4 508 98 VENTILO 18HT DELALOYE-HERMANN VLM 4 8.0 8.0

5 99695 116 HB 16 CAILLE-SAVARY CRG 5 10.0 10.0

6 616 95 VENTILO 609 AUBERT-FAVRE CNVJ 6 11.7 11.7

7 3 SEKA 94 VENTILO 20 PERREN-PERREN SCWE 7 13.0 13.0

8 233 95 VENTILO WITTWER-GLINZ VLM 8 14.0 14.0

9 150 95 CLASS A LAURENT VEZ CNM 9 15.0 15.0

10 507 98 VENTILO 18HT EICHELBERGER-UTZINGER VLM 10 16.0 16.0

11 503 98 VENTILO 18HT CERUTTI-ROCHAT CNVJ 11 17.0 17.0

12 511 98 VENTILO 18HT GIANOLA-GLAUSER SNR 12 18.0 18.0

13 612 95 VENTILO 609 MOTTIER-GRADER CVV 13 19.0 19.0

14 248 95 VENTILO FISCHER-FISCHER CVV 14 20.0 20.0

15 211 103 TAIPAN 4.9 MEIER-GAUTSCHI SCF 15 21.0 21.0

16 43 104 SPITFIRE16 MARMONT-BARBIER CNS 16 22.0 22.0

17 42850 116 HB 16 SIMOND CLAUDE CNVJ 17 23.0 23.0

18 166 95 CLASS A CLAUDE DAVID CNV 18 24.0 24.0

19 195 95 TORNADO BEGUELIN-BLONDEL CVNC 19 25.0 25.0

20 615 95 VENTILO 609 REYMOND-SUTER 20 26.0 26.0

21 2446 116 DART18 JUTTENS-JUTTENS IYCI 21 27.0 27.0

22 219 101 MAATIA18 BOUCHER-ALEXANDRE CNS dnc 31.0 31.0

22 206 103 TAIPAN LEUTHARD-IMFELD SCF dnf 31.0 31.0

22 127 120 LB 15 LEHMANN-BUIJS SNR dnf 31.0 31.0


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Re: Formula 18 ht in Switzerland #10129
09/05/02 01:02 PM
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http://18hightech.free.fr/



Currently three European manufacturers build catamarans 18 High Tech:

Ventilo / Bimare / Marstrom



In Switzerland Sails many F 18 ht

Gretings from Marcella




Marstrom does NOT build a F18HT (nm) #10130
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He was suppost to but didn't.



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Re: Marstrom does NOT build a F18HT (nm) [Re: Wouter] #10131
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Sorry Wouter

This is a Original Mesages from Europian F 18ht Page

http://18hightech.free.fr/Go/Fr/RubBateau/Constructeurs.html



Marcella

Yeah well Marstrom has never build a F18HT #10132
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Yeah well Marstrom has never build a F18HT and the picture that is used on that site is of the M18 which is a slightly wider a-cat with an spi. It is in breach of the 18HT rules on weight (it's 70 kg's) and the fact that it is a solo boat.



Marstrom website names the Tornado, A-cat and M18 and not even the M20 of which it has build a few. But up till now they have never produced an F18HT, no matter what others may say.



I' m very sorry but that is the truth.



Wouter



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Re: Formula 18 ht in Switzerland #10133
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Does anybody know what rating system they are using?



They seem to have 3 types of Ventilo

the 18HT which rates 98



A Ventilo that rates the same as the Tsport at 95



and a Ventilo that rates faster at 94... I assume the old style ventilo. What are the differences of the last two boats.



Does an A cat REALLY rate the same as a Tornado at 95 in this rating system.



Thanks

Mark


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Re: Formula 18 ht in Switzerland [Re: Mark Schneider] #10134
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Hy Marc,

The Hp from Swiss Ventilo Url

http://www.ventilo.ch/



Ventilo Catamarans :

- A-Cat new!

- HT18

- 20

- 609 Race new!

- 27



New Raitings from International Small Catamaran Raiting System September 2002

http://www.schrs.com/schrsratings.asp?id=all



Tornado Sport 0.97

Ventilo 18 ht 1.03

Ventilo 20 0.93

Ventilo 609 0.91

Hobie Fox 0.94



Marcella

You made mistakes in the ratings #10135
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The ventilo 18 listed is not an F18HT. Take a look at it's weight 147 kg (17 kg overweight) and the fact it has a jib and that it's combined sailarea at 18,2 sq. mtr. is considerable less than the 20 sq. mtr. allowed under the F18HT rules. And it would be strange when teh F18HT was rated slower than the F18 and F16's under this isaf system



In fact the Ventilo F18HT doesn't have a rating udner ISAF.



Also the NEW tornado that everybody knows has a rating of 0,93 ; I know that the predesessor Tornado sport has a rating of 0.97, as you say, but hardly anyone sails that rig anymore. All tornado sailor with any aspiration have switched to the new larger rig.



The other numbers are right .



Wouter



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