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Posts: 1,203 uk | I've never heard of a cat sinking, especially one that probably has to comply with a stack of charterboat regulations. Dismasting is a high risk on an older boat with a load of passengers[weight] on board.
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#101691 03/26/07 10:42 AM 03/26/07 10:42 AM |
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Posts: 5,582 “an island in the Pacifi... | "When we got there, the (Kiele V) captain and crew were trying to cut away the rigging lines so the sail could get away," said Jason Moore, staff photographer for Maui No Ka Oi Magazine, who was aboard the Teralani III, the first ship to arrive and offer assistance to Kiele V.
"The back side (of the Kiele V) was being pulled down and the captain only had a hacksaw to cut the rigging," Moore said. US Sail Level 2 Instructor US Sail Level 3 Coach | | | Re: Man Dies On Maui Catamaran
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#101693 03/26/07 11:11 AM 03/26/07 11:11 AM |
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Posts: 5,590 Naples, FL | Perhaps the rigging was pulling the stern down far enough to swamp the hulls?
Even then, it wouldn't necessarily "sink", would it??
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#101696 03/26/07 11:47 AM 03/26/07 11:47 AM |
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Posts: 1,459 Annapolis,MD | Reasons for getting the rig cut away would be many - they point out that the sinking rig was pulling the stern down. But also a downed rig can slam against the hulls with the threat of punching holes in the boat. If the remains of the rig are swaying around it can pose an additional hazard to those on the boat and impede rescuers getting people off.
As for it truly sinking you'd have to know the nature of the construction and the load it was carrying. There are no sinkability ratings from the CG for a boat that size. The real issue is whether the sinking rig and load being carried can overwhelm any natural bouyancy from construction (foam core in lay up, encapsulated wood, etc.) once the boat is swamped. Add in inboard engines, the possibility that the design had mini-keels, and a bunch of other crap on board and a sinking is a real possibility IMO.
What I think the CG regs should specify is better on-board emergency equipment for dealing with these situations. There are very effective rigging cutting tools for emergencies. On a day-charter sailing vessel you are tempting fate to not have that gear on board. A hack saw just ain't going to cut it (pun intended)...
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#101697 03/26/07 12:29 PM 03/26/07 12:29 PM |
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | There are tools available that use a gun powder cartridge to power a shear pin. You put the cable in the jaws and pull the trigger. Even rod rigging can be cut immediately with this kind of tool.
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#101698 03/26/07 01:21 PM 03/26/07 01:21 PM |
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Posts: 5,582 “an island in the Pacifi... | UPDATE from Maui News.
"The commercial sailing catamaran Kiele V was about one mile offshore of Kahana Beach..."
"...back right side of the boat was submerged and sinking when the Teralani arrived...passengers wearing life vests were huddled on the opposite end of the boat..."
"...windy and rough conditions may have contributed to the mast breaking."
"The wind was just blowing out there, and that may have been too much for the sail."
My house is about a quarter mile up from Kaanapali Beach. We were seeing gusts into the 30s yesterday. If the cat was a mile offshore from Kahana then they were out beyond the windline and into the tradewinds. I doubt they were that far north but it was still pretty windy at Kaanapali. US Sail Level 2 Instructor US Sail Level 3 Coach | | |
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