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#105713 05/04/07 09:19 AM 05/04/07 09:19 AM |
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 807 Hillsborough, NC USA Isotope235
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Posts: 807 Hillsborough, NC USA | ... How would Boat 1 prove that Boat 2 needed to tack also? I believe your interpretations of rule 18 are correct, but it's usually a mistake to assume that a protest committee will share your understanding. My advice would be (in descending preference order): 1) Don't get into this situation to begin with. Push your way up to the layline before becoming "about to round or pass" the mark. The rules are written to discourage tacking inside the two-boat-length-zone (TBLZ) and it's safest to avoid doing so. 2) If you wind up in this situation after all, hail the other boat before things get rushed. Tell them that you're inside boat and need room to tack. When both skippers know what the other intends to do, then they will most likely get through the encounter safely, cleanly, and without protest. 3) If the other boat won't give you room, don't break any rules yourself. You can head up, but you must try to avoid contact. Make sure you're squeaky-clean and then protest. If the other boat needed to tack to make the mark, then she will. In the protest hearing, be polite, present the facts clearly, precisely, and with good substantiating evidence. Testimony such as "I know were were overlapped for 10 seconds because I counted "one one-thousand, two one-thousand..." carries a lot more weight than "I guess it was 10 seconds or so". Tell exactly where the boats were at what times and it should be evident that tacking was required. Don't stop at the facts. Lead the protest committee through your interpretation of the rules, which ones apply, what each boat's obligations were, how you fulfilled yours, and how the other did not. Many protest hearings are miscarrages of justice simply and solely because people present their cases poorly. Regards, Eric | | | Re: A-Mark Rule
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#105715 05/04/07 12:19 PM 05/04/07 12:19 PM |
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 807 Hillsborough, NC USA Isotope235
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Posts: 807 Hillsborough, NC USA | I'm sure there are many who would say that if you missed the layline, that you were not "about to round or pass" the mark. I'm not aware of any definitive ruling on this particular situation, so it would be interesting to see it come up in an appeal. I suspect most judges would consider any boat in the TBLZ "about to round or pass", regardless of the number of tacks needed (as long as they were headed towards the mark). And, because rrs 18 does not apply "while the boats are on opposite tacks", rule application could get a little hairy during the rounding.
As a thought exercise, it's interesting, but I wouldn't want to be the one testing it in a protest hearing.
Regards, Eric | | | Re: A-Mark Rule
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#105716 05/04/07 06:16 PM 05/04/07 06:16 PM |
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 951 Brisbane, Queensland, Australi... ncik
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Posts: 951 Brisbane, Queensland, Australi... | Cat's are almost too fast to decide to tack, then complete the tack within the two boat lengths in most wind conditions, ie. the decision is made before you even enter the two boat lengths zone whether you're going to lay the mark or not.
If you leave your decision that late, you deserve to not round first time. Bear away and gybe onto port, tack and then round, also known as bailing out.
If you are the leeward of two boats that are not going to make it, why the hell have you left the decision so late! Bail out and go around properly earlier.
In cat sailing, with high speeds and slow tacks, it is always best to think well ahead and make decisions as early as possible, erring on the side of maintaining speed. | | | Re: A-Mark Rule
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#105717 05/04/07 06:54 PM 05/04/07 06:54 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 9,582 North-West Europe Wouter
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Indeed, on a cat it is always better to sail 50 more meters or so then to get hung up in a forced tack or a dispute with another boat.
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