| Blade Spinnaker Dousing #108458 05/29/07 08:13 AM 05/29/07 08:13 AM |
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 71 Stephen OP
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Posts: 71 | We are having problems dousing the Spin. I changed to a 2 line system and now the spin drops so fast it ends up in the water and is hard to retrieve.
I think it needs some drag in one direction (dropping) so it takes a little load to come down. I would like no drag going up.
Anyone solve this problem already?
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#108459 05/29/07 08:22 AM 05/29/07 08:22 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 9,582 North-West Europe Wouter
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Do you pretension the retrieval line before releasing the top halyard cleat. This can make a noticeable difference.
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#108460 05/29/07 08:30 AM 05/29/07 08:30 AM |
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Posts: 71 | Tried it but didn't notice much difference.
Stephen Phoenix Az | | | Re: Blade Spinnaker Dousing
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#108461 05/29/07 08:35 AM 05/29/07 08:35 AM |
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Posts: 3,348 | . . . I would like no drag going up.
I haven't noticed a problem. Lots of people use a silicon spray around the snuffer hoop. | | | Re: Blade Spinnaker Dousing
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#108463 05/29/07 09:35 AM 05/29/07 09:35 AM |
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Posts: 915 Dublin, Ireland | Maybe your halyard is too long. It depends on your system, but the loose halyard on the tramp should run through a block and be tensioned by shockcord. It shouldn't drop from the top, unless you pull on the retrieval.
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#108467 05/29/07 11:29 AM 05/29/07 11:29 AM |
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Posts: 1,246 Orlando, FL | Pull faster <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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#108468 05/29/07 11:39 AM 05/29/07 11:39 AM |
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Posts: 3,528 Looking for a Job, I got credi... | I use (and used on the Inter 17) two slightly different methods (Single line system - single handed.)
1, Up to about F3-4 and fairly flat water
a, (rounding mark to stbd) Come in of the wire and stand on the Spi sheet with your right foot, drop the traveller off and then stand on the mainsheet with you left foot. b, uncleat and go hand over hand to drop the kite and at the right moment lift your foot on the sheet so all goes into the bag. One thing to be carefull is that there is a point when the mainsail powers up (if the boat is not tracking) and you can have a bit of a hull fly. When standing, a quick hop to windward can save things (but you HAVE to know it will otherwise, stamp of the mainsheet rope with your LEFT foot and it will come uncleated - with practice). The other option is to just dump the mainsheet as the kite comes down.
2, windy and or lumpy
a, If on the wire, come in and sit/rest foot on the sheet b, dump the traveller c, get forward and uncleat, and then go hand over hand (but it is not as quick as standing up), at the right moment ease the sheet. d, keep the mainsheet to hand in case the boat powers up and you fly a hull.
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#108469 05/29/07 04:42 PM 05/29/07 04:42 PM |
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Posts: 915 Dublin, Ireland | How does that system work Dermot? When we used a shockcord in that way it completely ruined our light air performance. We used to tie it off to stop it, but it was a problem remembering to untie the knot before we had to douse. I think that Terry is right, "Pull faster". We seldom have trouble with retrieval. My crew is very fast - her arms are a blur as she drops the spinnaker, gets the boards down and is out on the wire in seconds. My tackline is separate. The halyard runs from the spinlock through a block on the tramp and back to a block which runs on a length of shockcord, which in turn is tied between the toestraps at the back of the tramp. The halyard then goes through the back of the chute and up to the patches. We have a thin line which goes from the top patch to the head of the sail to prevent stretching when pulling.The halyard rope is just long enough not to pull on the retrieval side of the halyard in light winds and spoil the shape of the spinnaker. I haven't had to think of this before because we do not have a problem, but maybe in strong winds the spinnaker blows out in front of the boat and does not drop in the water. And in light winds, the shockcord is strong enough to stop the halyard dropping too quickly.
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