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RTI Results pg.1 (maybe!) #11160
10/01/02 11:30 AM
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Re: RTI Results pg.1 (maybe!) [Re: catsailorp19mx] #11161
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Thanks for posting the results. It looks like when the fast boats can't finish in the daylight the results become a little more valid for everyone. It must be interesting trying to get that RC30 down through that channel in the dark.



To view it I saved the attachment as a gif file from my browser. I then used Explorer to pull it up using Microsoft photo editor. This way I could resize it to fit the screen better. I think if you scan it with a smaller pixel number the picture would be a smaller size.



Congratulations to all that finished what looks like a grueling race.



Mike Hill

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Re: RTI Results pg.1 (maybe!) [Re: catsailorp19mx] #11162
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Thanks for posting those results as even though I was in the race, that's the first time that I had seen them. Just a quick question though ... Not to seem picky, but it seems that the recorded finish time may be a bit off, say ... by exactly an hour. Anyone else notice a difference in the time they thought they finished in and the time recorded for them?



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>"...might be off by an hour"



Maybe somebody has an EDT watch in the CDT zone.

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>.Maybe somebody has an EDT watch in the CDT zone."



Dean, that was my first thought ... so I double checked with my crew (who had kept a running stopwatch from the start), another boat that finished shortly after we did, and a few email time stamps that I had sent shortly after I got back to shore. It was definitely off one hour for my elapsed time. Am I worried about it? nah, not really. Just curious if I was missing something in the scoring/timing/whatever.



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Yes, we think you're right. At first we thought that maybe they forgot to add or subtract an hour because of the staggered start. But we were in the very first start at 7am. So we have been sitting here trying to figure out if we were off by an hour because our watches are set for EDT, or if we really did it in 20:49? I hope somebody figures it out!

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I think that the person calling some of the times (probably all of them) was from the east coast. Perhaps their watch was still on eastern .... but that would mean your recorded finish was an hour earlier than you really did - is that the case?


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Nope, the recorded finish was an hour longer than the actual time we took. We had a recorded time of 20:47:02 whereas I think it should have been 19:47:02 (by my own watch I had called it 19 hours and 47 minutes even, I'll give them the 2 extra seconds without much complaint [Linked Image] ).



If the person recording times had a watch on that was set to Eastern time, it would make the elapsed time seem to be one hour longer than the correct elapsed time. Hypothetically, if we finished at 4 am central and started at 8am, we would have had an elapsed time of 20 hours. If the person recording the time was on eastern time, they would record 5am, therefore an elapsed time of 21 hours it would seem. Seeing as I don't have a clue who was recording the times (I didn't even see them on the dock), I wouldn't know if this was a possibilty or not.



I don't think it makes much difference either way, just wanted to make sure I wasn't going crazy.

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If all the times are 1 hour off, this DOES make a difference in portsmouth, when your # is multiplied by the elapsed time.



WILL SOMEONE involved in scoring please address this?



I was 2 secs corrected time behind someone, that may make the difference.


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Re: RTI Results pg.1 (maybe!) [Re: Todd_Sails] #11169
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we started at 8 with the other spin boats and got the boat packed away for the night, took showers in time to just miss the bar closing (I promised to buy my crew a shot if we made it in time)...That put us in at about 1:20am or - our time is recorded properly at 17:22 minutes so the person I was refering too was recording them properly.


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I had my GPS in hand when we finished at 3:06 am. However, my time shown is 20 hours six minutes. One hour later.



I don't mind, but if the earlier guys had a different score keeper then our placing will be much different. Also, the longer we are on the course the more advantage the higher Portsmouth boats have.



Randy - are you reading this?



Mike Taipan 4.9, USA #213

Re: RTI Results pg.1 (maybe!) [Re: Mike213] #11171
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Bump


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Re: RTI Results pg.1 (maybe!) [Re: Todd_Sails] #11172
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Todd - I missed hooking up with you at RTI...I looked for you a couple of times but time was short getting everything setup. Perhaps next time. What is the meaning of your post here "bump"?


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"bump" or "bttt" usually means that the poster wants to bring the topic back up to top of the topic listings.


Re: RTI Results pg.1 (maybe!) [Re: MauganN20] #11174
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Jake, Sorry I missed you too. I had the Lavender colored chute, sp top sails #111.



And yes, bump means bump it to the top.


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Re: RTI Results pg.1 (maybe!) [Re: catsailorp19mx] #11175
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I put some limited photos (sorry...no action shots) of RTI on my website as well as a table of the results. I didn't double check them after I typed them in so let me know if anyone sees any mistakes. Go to the photo gallery for the pictures and race detail (in the RTI picture index) for the results.



http://webpages.charter.net/jakekohl/


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Re: RTI Results pg.1 (maybe!) [Re: Mike213] #11176
10/10/02 12:51 PM
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To all those that have concerns about the accuracy of the RTI results please privately email me (or privately message me here on the board) and give me the following information. I will put this information together to see if there is some sort of pattern and communicate with the race organizers to see if we can identify/correct any existing problem. I am sure that the race organizers will be very open to correcting any inaccuracies that might have occured.



- Time zone you reside in

- Boat type and sail number

- The reason you feel that your record is not accurate (supported by any facts you have)


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Re: RTI Results pg.1 (maybe!) [Re: Jake] #11177
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Jake,



enlighten me please. Why would the time zone you reside in make any difference to the elapsed time kept by the Race Comm?


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It probably will not factor in at all. However, I want the information to rule out any unlikely miscalculation on the sailors part by comparing their watch wrong. i.e.) if sailors from two different time zones noticed the same difference it would decisively rule out errors relative to their watches and GPS being set to the wrong time zone.


Jake Kohl

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