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How's my trim #111847
07/16/07 12:12 PM
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Sailing on a close reach, ~8 kts in light chop:

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Re: How's my trim *DELETED* [Re: Tornado] #111848
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Re: How's my trim [Re: PTP] #111849
07/16/07 02:21 PM
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Why do you ask? Are you thinking about the reach from A mark to the offset?
I can not see the telltales, so it's hard to say. If you were double trapped when going upwind (8 knots and you are a heavy team? probably not?) you would probably need one on trapeze going from A to offset. We let out a bit on the jib, mainsheet, downhaul and rotation when going from a beat to a close reach. I expect our trim looks much like yours, but we also play the travellers to make the leech telltales fly as well as possible if there is time. From A to offset there is usually not time for much fine tuning, just enough to let out on the mainsheet as the crew goes in and readies the spi.

Re: How's my trim [Re: Rolf_Nilsen] #111850
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The pics are from the Frenchy's Rum Run...one long close reach out to Anacapa island and back. So, I'm wanting feed back on how the sails look for such a heading. From my eye, they seemed good...better than my old alu rig setup. Leech looks quite vertical aqnd draft seems pretty even.

Try this link to the original sized pics...you can see the tell tales nicely:

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Why do you ask? Are you thinking about the reach from A mark to the offset?
I can not see the telltales, so it's hard to say. If you were double trapped when going upwind (8 knots and you are a heavy team? probably not?) you would probably need one on trapeze going from A to offset. We let out a bit on the jib, mainsheet, downhaul and rotation when going from a beat to a close reach. I expect our trim looks much like yours, but we also play the travellers to make the leech telltales fly as well as possible if there is time. From A to offset there is usually not time for much fine tuning, just enough to let out on the mainsheet as the crew goes in and readies the spi.

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Re: How's my trim [Re: Tornado] #111851
07/16/07 04:05 PM
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On a close reach we would go with less twist (more sheet tension) and the traveller a bit open. But I am a 16 and Tiger sailor, and I donĀ“t know how this would be for the T.

Re: How's my trim [Re: claus] #111852
07/16/07 04:52 PM
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I agree about less twist and a tiny bit of traveler. But I sail smaller boats too. and I would sit in further and try to lift the hull a little.

Re: How's my trim [Re: warbird] #111853
07/16/07 05:30 PM
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Difficult to comment on twist without seeing tell-tails.

But as you say you are tight reaching, I would say more mast rotation - i.e. spanner pointing along the front beam and let the outhaul off a fair bit. In light wind you want some shape at the bottom of the sail.


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Re: How's my trim [Re: scooby_simon] #111854
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I've only been sailing with a Jib for a few months now so I am hardly an expert,
but IMHO it looks like the jib sheet could go up 1 hole on the chainplate for more shape in the bottom (Someone plz correct if i'm wrong).
http://k53.pbase.com/o6/30/7530/1/82340180.lTeI72c2.IMG_1616.JPG


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