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sta/master turnbuckles #111919
07/17/07 12:31 PM
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Has anyone tried using these for the shrouds, instead of the regular chainplates.
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Re: sta/master turnbuckles [Re: TampaN20] #111920
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Yes,

We use the 432 model on our Hobie Tiger side shrouds. They work well - very easy to get consistent tension readings. We tape them up before sailing in case the retaining clip comes off the nut (which could allow the nut to work loose and drop the rig).

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Re: sta/master turnbuckles [Re: flumpmaster] #111921
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I have used them lots on a Star, and thought about using them on my F18, but have not tried them. It is nice to take a turn on or off of the shrouds in the star as wind or wave conditions change. It would be nice to be able to do that on the F18 sometimes.


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Re: sta/master turnbuckles [Re: Twister] #111922
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They are stock on my Blade; I like them. They can vibrate loose during trailering, so secure them with tape or take them off and stow.

Re: sta/master turnbuckles [Re: TampaN20] #111923
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Use them on the Tornado. I like them.


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Re: sta/master turnbuckles [Re: TampaN20] #111924
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I have them too but I think they need to be covered with shroud adjuster covers after taping them. Someone who crewed for me once slid forward when we buried the bow and really scraped his leg pretty badly on the teeth of the stay master.

Re: sta/master turnbuckles [Re: TampaN20] #111925
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Stock on the Infusion - Good kit


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Which are stock on the infusion, 432 or 532?

Re: sta/master turnbuckles [Re: PTP] #111927
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I have them too but I think they need to be covered with shroud adjuster covers after taping them. Someone who crewed for me once slid forward when we buried the bow and really scraped his leg pretty badly on the teeth of the stay master.


Good point - we put covers over ours to prevent this happening. The regular boots didn't fit so we slit them open and fitted them slit forwards, taping them up each time.

Chris.


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Re: sta/master turnbuckles [Re: TampaN20] #111928
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432's on the Infusion.

Why do people always laugh when I tell them that my Infusion has got STAIRMASTERS fitted?

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Re: sta/master turnbuckles [Re: TEAMVMG] #111929
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Also what is generally stock on the Taipan 4.9, a couple of the top cat rigged guys have one on the forestay as well.

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Re: sta/master turnbuckles [Re: TEAMVMG] #111930
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Re: sta/master turnbuckles [Re: flumpmaster] #111931
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I have a set of covers from a set of shrouds with StaMasters I purchased off Charlie Ogletree some years back. The covers are just short lengths of PVC plastic pipe with a top cap fitted. These just slide over the StaMasters before attaching to boat.They act a bit like rollers if lines pass over them.

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I have them too but I think they need to be covered with shroud adjuster covers after taping them. Someone who crewed for me once slid forward when we buried the bow and really scraped his leg pretty badly on the teeth of the stay master.


Good point - we put covers over ours to prevent this happening. The regular boots didn't fit so we slit them open and fitted them slit forwards, taping them up each time.

Chris.


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Re: sta/master turnbuckles [Re: TEAMVMG] #111932
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Does anyone know if these are class legal on the Hobie 20?

Re: sta/master turnbuckles [Re: Ians] #111933
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Does anyone know if these are class legal on the Hobie 20?

In the IHCA Rule Book under General Rules, 15.2

"Shrourds and forestays shall connect to the HOBIE CAT CO. supplied shroud adjusters."

Ian, I'll agree they're cool, but...
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Re: sta/master turnbuckles [Re: _flatlander_] #111934
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Besides the coolness factor these shroud are a lot safer than standard shroud adjusters. They can be adjusted on the water without fear of dropping the pin and (or) dismasting. It also eliminates a clevis pin which can work free and lead to dismasting. In the fleet of monohulls I race in everyone has switched over to these.

Re: sta/master turnbuckles [Re: TampaN20] #111935
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Stock on the Capricorn - as others have said, tape the retainers once adjusted, and use shroud boots to cover the threads. F18 rules say they cannot be adjusted while racing, but ok to adjust between races. If you are racing HCA regattas, they're not allowed at all - but someone would be digging pretty deep when filing a protest on something like that. If you race mostly HCA races, I wouldn't put them on. If you're recreational or Portsmouth, I think you'll very much like the convenience. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />


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Re: sta/master turnbuckles [Re: wildtsail] #111936
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Well actually I hold the record around here for dismasting TWICE in the same race because those things slipped. The teeth were worn. So yes you can definitely dismast with them.

Re: sta/master turnbuckles [Re: pitchpoledave] #111937
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Well actually I hold the record around here for dismasting TWICE in the same race because those things slipped. The teeth were worn. So yes you can definitely dismast with them.


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Re: sta/master turnbuckles [Re: tback] #111938
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