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30 foot cat/tri #112474
07/25/07 04:03 PM
07/25/07 04:03 PM
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Naples, FL
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Just debating the various options for sailing in this multihull length (26-32 feet). I've seen Corsairs, Farrier, and Sea Cart for trimarans.

Only seen Lightspeed 32 in the catamaran category. I'm sure I am missing lots of other options (in both groups).


This size is too small for bluewater cruising, so maybe just stick to the daysailing/racing type multis.

And not to start a pissing match, but has anyone compared the VPP or polar diagrams on speed for these boats?


Jay

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Re: 30 foot cat/tri [Re: waterbug_wpb] #112475
07/25/07 05:15 PM
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ARC produces bad butt cats. 27 and 30.

Re: 30 foot cat/tri [Re: waterbug_wpb] #112476
07/25/07 06:02 PM
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IMO, most bang for the buck... Stiletto 27! cost you a 100g's for a new one if it existed, under $25K

Clayton

Re: 30 foot cat/tri [Re: Clayton] #112477
07/25/07 07:56 PM
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Don't forget the reynolds 33 catamaran



Re: 30 foot cat/tri [Re: hokie] #112478
07/26/07 04:40 AM
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France
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Just saw his on sailing anarchy: seacart 30.

http://www.oceanlakemarine.com/

Re: 30 foot cat/tri [Re: Clayton] #112479
07/26/07 09:36 AM
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IMO, most bang for the buck... Stiletto 27! cost you a 100g's for a new one if it existed, under $25K

Clayton


I think most mutlis in the 30 ft. range will cost around $100,000 or more USD if new. Am I correct?


Jay

Re: 30 foot cat/tri [Re: waterbug_wpb] #112480
07/26/07 11:59 AM
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Atlanta
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I saw a used Stilleto 27 in good shape in Hull MA 4 years ago, they guy wanted $12k for it.

Good looking boats, kind of heavy compared to current technology, but well worth the price if you can find one.

Re: 30 foot cat/tri [Re: bvining] #112481
07/26/07 12:40 PM
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I just surfed across the Gulfstream 35 website. Line drawing looks good, although there appears to be a lot more rocker than I'm used to seeing.

It looks like a fast weekend cruiser, which may be just the thing....

Anyone have any comments on this boat?


Jay

Re: 30 foot cat/tri [Re: waterbug_wpb] #112482
07/26/07 01:31 PM
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Northfield Mn
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Whats the boat that Pete Goss used for racing around the UK island? That was cool looking boat.

Re: 30 foot cat/tri [Re: waterbug_wpb] #112483
07/26/07 01:47 PM
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Among the tris the Seacart is a good option (maybe even for offshore sailing). Among the cats the ARC 27 and 30 have good reputation. The Reynolds 33 seems to be overpowered.
It is also worth checking www.aegeanmarine.com - only don't pay in advance, it's a small company.


Luiz
Re: 30 foot cat/tri [Re: Luiz] #112484
07/26/07 01:54 PM
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Luiz,

I'm surprised you're suggesting the Catri after your experience. Have you had any good news since I last checked in with you on this topic?



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Among the tris the Seacart is a good option (maybe even for offshore sailing). Among the cats the ARC 27 and 30 have good reputation. The Reynolds 33 seems to be overpowered.
It is also worth checking www.aegeanmarine.com - only don't pay in advance, it's a small company.


Mike Dobbs
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Re: 30 foot cat/tri [Re: Tornado] #112485
07/26/07 02:47 PM
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Mike:

According to their website it sounds as though you liked the boat?

[Linked Image]

Re: 30 foot cat/tri [Re: bvining] #112486
07/26/07 02:47 PM
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South Louisiana, USA
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There is one on the Stiletto forum, see... http://stiletto.wildjibe.com/cgi-bin/pgs.../forsale-db.txt

Put a brand new set of high perf sails and you're off and running!

Clayton

Re: 30 foot cat/tri [Re: Dan_Delave] #112487
07/26/07 03:04 PM
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Yup...it was impressive how it overtook us on the F28R. However, if you have followed Luiz's story over the past 3+ years trying to get an order filled for a Catri...you'll understand my comment.

Technically, the boat is out there...but the designer/builder has BIG issues.



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Mike:

According to their website it sounds as though you liked the boat?

[Linked Image]


Mike Dobbs
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