| Re: Tacking a Hobie 16
[Re: mmiller]
#113320 08/01/07 04:14 PM 08/01/07 04:14 PM |
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 902 Norman,OK gree2056
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Posts: 902 Norman,OK | But you shouldn't have to back around like that everytime should you? I know the 14 carries through some tacks.
Oh, I misread this is really high wind, then yeah what MM said.
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[Re: gree2056]
#113321 08/01/07 09:04 PM 08/01/07 09:04 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 12,310 South Carolina Jake
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | yeah...high wind is a different ballgame and really tricky with unexperienced crew...no matter what the boat.
Jake Kohl | | | Re: Tacking a Hobie 16
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#113322 08/01/07 09:15 PM 08/01/07 09:15 PM |
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Posts: 1,147 Bay of Islands, NZ | my Windrush was a similar boat with no dagger, a jib etc. It had a boom sheeted arrangement I just loved for that sort of boat. It had a six to one that ended in a single ratchet slightly forward of the other block on the boom leaving the sheet hanging right where you could grab it.
In heavy wind I would go into the tack. as soon as the jib back winded I would go over and as I was passing the tiller around the sheet I would let go the sheet and bring the rudders around for the reverse (By bringing the rudders right across it locks them and they act as break stopping too much reverse) I would let go the tiller arm and flick the jib through. The boat would start to move forward imediatley losing almost no way. I would let go the jib and grab the mainsheet with both hands. It would have released about 18 inches. The rudders would have come back to the centre position and the boat would be sailing a little off the wind and accelerating. I would hand over hand the main in, keeping the acceleration up and grab the tiller and away. Very quick, very reliable.
It only became reliable because I went out in wind and practiced it time and time again for a half hour getting the sequence just right.
Last edited by warbird; 08/01/07 09:19 PM.
| | | Re: Tacking a Hobie 16
[Re: Ed_Lane]
#113323 08/01/07 09:21 PM 08/01/07 09:21 PM |
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | I should add; the capsizing thing is definitely a weight issue - keep your weight forward if you are capsizing backwards. As skipper, keep an eye on the water flowing past the rudders, if you see it stop and begin to reverse, IMMEDIATELY reverse the help and steer the boat backwards. Heavy air / heavy wave tacking just takes a little more thought.
Jake Kohl | | | Re: Tacking a Hobie 16
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#113324 08/01/07 09:43 PM 08/01/07 09:43 PM |
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Posts: 902 Norman,OK | I hated tacking the 14 in heavy air, the new boat on the other hand is a little easier. But still big wind isn't fun.
Once you go cat you never go back!
Nacra 5.2 (Elsies)#1499, running an inter17 spin!
| | | Re: Tacking a Hobie 16
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#113327 08/02/07 03:18 AM 08/02/07 03:18 AM |
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Posts: 1,147 Bay of Islands, NZ | few more tips. go into the tack with speed, tack from the trapeze. go into the tack on the way up the wave face and cross the eye of the wind at the top of the wave. don't hang around on the leeward side after it's time to leave. good advice | | | Re: Tacking a Hobie 16
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#113330 08/02/07 05:35 PM 08/02/07 05:35 PM |
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Posts: 2 Penfield NY | Last time out in about force 6 we capsized in the middle of the tack almost backwards over the leeward rudder. What is going wrong? any suggestions and advice very welcome. Sounds to me like your not keeping enough weight forward during your tack - that would allow the bows of your 16 to come to high and since its heavy wind bows high = wind under the tramp - you've been sailing a long time so im sure your aware that the 16 can flip in all 4 directions. if your not racing then the backwinded jib is fine but only for recreational sailing - You cant tack unless you have a good amount of boat speed and everything MUST be sheeted in block to block. Dont be afraid if you go on a hull because the block to block setup rakes your mast back more and you can work the stick better. Once your in tight with good speed ease the rudders gradually adding pressure and make sure your crew sails the jib thru the tack keeping the tale-tales parallel to each other
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