hey guys looking in to getting some new rudders for my mozzie. what are my options what sort of price range will i be looking at and wheres best to get them from?
thaughts apreciated

lindsay

Hi Lindsay,

Discussion on Dotan rudders on this forum including link to their web page is here. http://www.catsailor.com/forums/showflat...true#Post113162 A place to start for you.



Cheers

yeh i saw that but im thinking of something more local, then if theres nuthing much around venturing elswhere, prehaps ahpc in bendigo does anyone know if they make mossie rudders i asume they do and what there like?

Hi 1717

You can try Tony McKenzie in Colac, Vic. McKenzie Composites, makes all sorts of boards and rudders for cats, including Mosquitos.

Mobile Number 0408523566.

I'm won't quoted on this, I know he did for a while, he is possibly supplying the boards and rudders for Geltec, which are building the Mosquitos.

Regards

thanx for that Matt ill give him a try tomorow

Approximately $600 for a set of rudders. Thats the full price, seems very easy to get 10 to 15 percent knocked off that.
Dont hand over money until you have checked the Leading edge and trailing edge are straight, parallel and the board is not twisted. Use a straight edge to also check for hollows. It only take a very small defect in a rudder to wreck the handling of your Mozzy.

Make sure you get a warranty, defects such as areas where the two halves of the board are only partially stuck together my not show up until the rudders have had some use.

I would search the forum for info on Mackenzie rudders, there has been some talk regarding these foils fitted to US made Blades.

Darryn
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By all means check warranties and things out before purchase, but I think the boards and pretty good. I'm not 100% sure, I was at Tony's when making some foils for (I can't really remember it might have been someone Lott???) So you might be able to get some first hand references.

Regards

Hi Lindsay,

I would look at Mckenzie and Boyer Rudders keeping it local. I have used both on Mossies, my opinion as follows.

Mckenzies carbon rudder blades and stocks, steer very nicely and don't hum. But the lock down mechanism on the ones I used made some 2 Years ago and before, did not release without damage when trying to kick up. This is due to the lock down rod being to short (because of length of Mossie tiller compared to A class) and stiff, also the locking mechanism is a notched plate which doesn't release easily.
Also one pair I have been involved in repairing, split open in the head on the join line, I have also heard of this problem on some that where exported for use on F16 Blades. But the first pair I came across on a Blade F16 are still going with no problems to my knowledge, so how common this is I can not say.

Boyer is no longer in buisness as such, but I believe he still has the moulds and is still working in the industry. The Carbon Rudders and Stocks I have used, steer well but not as firmly as the McKenzies. They also Humm every Boyer rudder I have ever used do until you sand them, they have instructions on this on the AHPC or Taipan site I think. I have heard of splitting on the join line with Boyers as well, but have not been involved with any that did it myself, but there are a lot more Boyers out there so they are bound to have had some problems over the years.

Conclusion, must say if price is right would be tempted to go with McKenzies, but only after extensive conversation with Tony and checking that the lock down and joining problems are fixed and guaranteed.

yeh thanx for that Gary i gave Tony a call today and got a quote out of him of $700 for two carbon rudders blades only and tahts with six months waranty, AHPC gave me a quote of $875 for teh carbon v series which is an a-class rudder i belive but also used on mozies, and i also have contacted Peter Cobdon about the boyer molds and hes getting back to me with the details of the guy who has them. so iv still got a bit more research to do. what are ur thaughts of using new baldes in my old aluminium rudder boxes as theres nuting realy wrong with the boxes, im on a rather cheap budget and i would just fit the rod and pin lock down system like used on A-classes rather than the primitative rope system i have holding my timber rudders down at present.

regards
Lindsay

Hi Lindsay,

should be OK to put in alloy boxes but you will need to check thickness of blades. Also may have to build up head of blade where it contacts the bottom of alloy box when fully down, this was generaly already done on the blades made for alloy boxes. So that it locks in tight when fully down.

Garry, what rudder blades are fitted to the F16 Blade you are sailing now? How thick are they?
Darryn
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