Is anyone using something like Amsteel line for their trap lines? I know the skiff guys are using it rather than stainless wire, but I haven't seen any Cat Sailors adopt it. Pros/Cons? <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

jrg

Do a search, it has been discussed.
pro: lightweight, cheaper (initially- .17c a foot, but need to be replaced more often), doesn't cut you. If they are spliced they are stronger than the steel wire.
con: have to keep a close eye on them and replace them once wear shows.

I did a set for my previous boat and they worked very well. We replaced them mainly because it is difficult to find a way to really limit the friction/abrasion where the line attaches to the hounds. We also used 7/64 amsteel which gives you less room for wear. But then again, a 230lb dude on them probably causes more wear than average. I did them on another HT and they are working fine.
They should be replaced yearly at least though IMO (differing opinions, etc). If you don't pay attention to them and have no intention of paying attention then certainly stay with the wire.
I was a little hesitant to do it on my boat because I singlehand so often. However, I did do it and it has worked fine. I am fairly OCD about going over my boat routinely though.

My FX1 came with spectra trap lines. I don't know for sure but I'm willing to bet they are original to the boat, and they look to be in really good shape after 3 years.

I've been using 500 kg breakstrength 3 mm dyneema ever since 1998. In that time I've only made two sets. I sold my other boat with those trap lines after 3 years and my current boat has them for 4 years now. I inspected them right before the F16 Global Challenge two weeks ago and they are still fine. I just need to stitch the thimble up again (this protects to wire at the hound fitting), but that is all. I'm sure I'm going to get a few more years of service out of them.

Personally I only trust Marlow 3 mm 500 kg dyneema line. Friends of mine experimented with spectra and imitation dyneema and it failed on them after one season. I guess it really pays to find quality line.

Other then that I high recommend synthetic trap wires to anyone.

I think it is also a safety issue. I can cut my trap wire with my knife in case of an emergency.

Wouter

Currently, this would not be class legal for racing.

Pertinent rules: General Rule 4, General Rule 15.1, Hobie 16 Rule 9.

If you're not racing, you can do whatever you like. If you come upon a great idea, you can petition for a change to the class rules.

Hope this helps.

Mike

I am going to replace my forestay bridle wires with spectra also- although it can be hard to factor in how much creep to allow for. Probably need to step up to a "higher" grade dyneema than standard amsteel with less creep.