wow! That's not much material! Cool.

I have looked closely at 2-3 of the DK's that were at Bristol around the NA's last year. They were extremely well built as well as showing the level of thought and development that goes into the A-Class. i am one of the newbies in the class and I have truly been amazed as well as suprised by the different thoughts that are out there concern this class. The DK-17 being a boat designed for sailors above the 90kg range and allow them to be competitive. I think right now the new Hall/Cogan design with its rigid wing and the new Lindahl/Roake LR2 are at the forefront of the development side of this equation. Cannot wait to see how both develop. Hats off to both project and the minds & efforts behind both showing that they had the beliefs and "balls" to put their money where their mouths are.

Timbo,

You apparently learned pressure tactics from either your Union or agitationprop from the S*****s. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />
Since the prop has apparently fallen off your airplane allowing you unlimited e-mail reading/writing time, why don't you come up to Gainesville and sail my hydrofoil A-cat? That is it in my avatar <-- or www.fastsail.com/catcobbler

Dave, I would love to! I'm in Atlanta this moment, on my way to Dubai, but I get back on Monday (Oct. 1) and then have some days off, I might be able to get up there. I'll pm you when I get home. Thanks for the offer!

Dave,

Is your XJ actually foiling?

Some local Brisbane guys have built 70 or so cherubs out of their own mould over the last couple of years. They're considered home builders as they have day jobs. They're doing a couple of 12 foot skiffs now.

Gotta go with Wout on this....if not the A, where is cat developement?

Who are driving the new hull shapes????!!!


Other classes just end up with an A and B class which would be pre wing and foil and poste wing and foil.

How does it do that if the foils don't go outside the boat width?
Banning foils is just plain silly. Hobby horsing is a pain as is pitching and losing the possiblity of stablising the boats with such a simple and honest device is nuts.

I like the hull shape that Lindahl and Roake are playing with on the LR2. It is development. Ben's wing and new platform are development. As to the foils, the A is measured to the farthest out point. If the foils were to exceed b-max the beams would have to be shortened so that b-max remained 7'6.5".

Agreed!!!!

My question about hull shape was rhetorical..like you I love the way those guys are putting their thoughts on the mat.

It is clear that A class is driving the research in hull shape....
so why not wing style...the sail is after all just a wing......

If the solid wing turns out to be fast, but an expensive ball ache to put into common use then only three will be made and they will die out.
Evolution is like that.....and the A division has always said that evo is their advantage over the rest.

Why worry?...It is not likely the first guy to race a solid wing seriously will win the event.

Second is just first loser.

If in the VERY unlikely event he wins it will be spectacular, exciting, create lots of news and excitement.......All good for the class in the end.

Who gave a s*** about Moths before they went foiling....now we all know about them and keep an eye there...it's attracting lots of newbies and sponsorship to that class I bet.

The avatar pic and the website show my 34 year-old 200 pound wooden A-cat foiling at speed in Jacksonville, FL. The rig works pretty well, albeit with (obsolete) surface-piercing aluminum foils and without any moveable control surfaces: I have pix and testimonials and have been on the same water together with Raves. They have all gone away and I've survived.

Ben,

good luck this weekend at Lake Hopatcong. Hope that you post thoughts and photos after the regatta.

http://mysite.verizon.net/vze28w8n/ Lake Hopatconk Pics

Interesting pictures of the Lindal boat. The centerboard and rudders look "agressive".

How do they manage to get the boat stiff enough with the very small attachment point between the beams and the hulls, loads of carbon?

With a wider attachment point you get lower loads and can use less material.

/hakan

what happened to the pictures? The links not working.

I got a couple of pictures of the wing in its storeage box before my digital camera ran out of batteries.

Bill,

It seems that the link that they were posted on was temporary. I am waiting for fred and Ian to send the pictures, videos and report about the regatta so that I can post and distribute them. Maybe you can get Ben to post his as well.

Shelly said she was going to post her pics on shutterfly.

One more of the wing in a box.

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