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Cat beams #120787
10/23/07 06:55 PM
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Is trailering what limits every single cat to 8' 6" or less? I know the Tornado is wider, and some of the ARC models are wider but what else?

Just curios....


I'm boatless.
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Re: Cat beams [Re: Karl_Brogger] #120788
10/23/07 08:24 PM
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All of the European 20' carbon boats, M20 etc...,

Re: Cat beams [Re: Karl_Brogger] #120789
10/23/07 08:26 PM
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Stilleto 23's

I have an ARC 21 at 8'6", wish it was wider......It would be an animal!

Re: Cat beams [Re: arbo06] #120790
10/23/07 08:27 PM
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ARC 22... Bad butt boat........

Re: Cat beams [Re: arbo06] #120791
10/23/07 09:51 PM
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Supercat 20, 12' beams, telescopes to 8' to trailer. The affordable ARC 22.

Re: Cat beams [Re: Karl_Brogger] #120792
10/23/07 10:56 PM
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18 sq meters!!

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Re: Cat beams [Re: Karl_Brogger] #120793
10/24/07 12:07 AM
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Yes, ease of raod travel dictates that measurement. Other boats while gaining in many ways in their wider beam become a pain if not stored mast up.

Re: Cat beams [Re: warbird] #120794
10/24/07 02:15 AM
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think it's widest size that usa law regulates for normal load on normal trailer

you can build what you want but if it's not trailerable people won't buy them

where the laws are different cats are built either wider or narrower

someone said that australian nacras were of a different beam from usa built boats

apparently 1:2 proportion is a good size for cats if trailers aren't an issue, so my 17 foot nacra 5.2 could be 8.5 feet wide instead of it's current 8foot? width

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Re: Cat beams [Re: erice] #120795
10/24/07 03:53 AM
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Same in Europe the maximmum legal width of of a trailer... so unless you want to take it apart evry time aka Tornado then width restriction comes into play

Re: Cat beams [Re: stuartoffer] #120796
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I met a guy towing a Tornado fully made up behind an escort van on a small lane in Texel, a few years ago - that woke me up!


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Re: Cat beams [Re: TEAMVMG] #120797
10/24/07 08:09 AM
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How much hassle is it to get a yearly over wide permit? The southern Kingfish Association fishermen trailer big center console boats up to 40+ all over the country (one of the favorites is the tournament 38’ Fountain and it is 10’-6”wide )...so it can't be too hard to get...a better question might be how wide can you go with a permit before you have to have escort vehicles, in some states it is anything over 14’ wide. Any one here knowledgeable about this subject? It could open up a whole new world of possibilities.

Regards,
Bob

Consider this [Re: Karl_Brogger] #120798
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Re: Cat beams [Re: Seeker] #120799
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In Europe you can tarvel under convoy eceptionalle, or as they are better known in the UK as STGO (Special Types Goods Orders, and covers width length and wieght, but the load has to be indivisable to qualify. Eg a beachcat with beams wouldn't qualify as it can be taken apart, but a yacht of 10 ft beam would. It then means markers have to be diplayed and if i remeber correctly once it goes over 1ft overhang either side then an escort is required

Re: Cat beams [Re: TEAMVMG] #120800
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I did say legally!!!! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Re: Cat beams [Re: Seeker] #120801
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My understanding is that in the States there are similar regulations as we have here in Europe

Re: Cat beams [Re: Seeker] #120802
10/24/07 10:57 AM
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How much hassle is it to get a yearly over wide permit? The southern Kingfish Association fishermen trailer big center console boats up to 40+ all over the country (one of the favorites is the tournament 38’ Fountain and it is 10’-6”wide )...so it can't be too hard to get...a better question might be how wide can you go with a permit before you have to have escort vehicles, in some states it is anything over 14’ wide. Any one here knowledgeable about this subject? It could open up a whole new world of possibilities.

Regards,
Bob


I am not sure the time limits for permits, but was thinking that they were only good for certain planned trips (not aimless wandering). You also have to avoid certain highways during certain times, use escorts, etc. I think it is big hassle.

All of this is conjecture from past dealings with US Federal and State governments. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />


Tom
Re: Cat beams [Re: Karl_Brogger] #120803
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I was attempting to find this when the "what do you tow with" thread came up again.

Notice that not all state laws allow 8'-6" width trailers (or load) and check out Hawaii's max. width of 9' <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />

Also check out the maximum trailering speed limit for your state. State by State Towing laws DL


John H16, H14
Re: Cat beams [Re: _flatlander_] #120804
10/24/07 12:26 PM
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I was attempting to find this when the "what do you tow with" thread came up again.

Notice that not all state laws allow 8'-6" width trailers (or load) and check out Hawaii's max. width of 9' <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />

Also check out the maximum trailering speed limit for your state. State by State Towing laws DL


Cool! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> According to that:
1) I broke 21 state laws on the way to your regatta, John!
2) My Tiger is illegally wide in my home state.

1 first class ticket to Hell, please. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

Re: Cat beams [Re: stuartoffer] #120805
10/24/07 12:45 PM
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Same in Europe the maximmum legal width of of a trailer... so unless you want to take it apart evry time aka Tornado then width restriction comes into play


Everytime? I think not:

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Re: Cat beams [Re: mbounds] #120806
10/24/07 12:46 PM
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Wow, Max speed limit for NC is 55. I break the law every time I pull out of my driveway with the boat.


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