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C class specs #122060
11/02/07 05:47 PM
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Where can I get information on the class specs for a C class. lenth? beam? weight? mast height? sail area? any help would be great thanks in advance.

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Re: C class specs [Re: avalondarlyn] #122061
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This May get you started.

Re: C class specs [Re: hobiegary] #122062
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Some day all class rules will be that simple.

I'm surprised thet ISAF let them get away with that.


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Re: C class specs [Re: TEAMVMG] #122063
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Once all IYRU (ISAF's predecessor) cat classes was that simple. A, B, C and D class rules was more or less set up by ISAF I think, to try and get some structure to the wild development going on back then. Now the class decides on the rules, and if it is an ISAF recognized class, ISAF has to validate changes to the rules.

If someone is starting a C class building project.. please keep us informed!

Re: C class specs [Re: Rolf_Nilsen] #122064
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ISAF have just got F18 to totaly rewrite theirs because they were too vague.


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Re: C class specs [Re: TEAMVMG] #122065
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Some day all class rules will be that simple.

I'm surprised thet ISAF let them get away with that.


ISAF did not let them "get away" with that: ISAF CREATED the Class. The A, B, C and D catamaran class rules were created by the (then) IYRU, now ISAF.


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Re: C class specs [Re: avalondarlyn] #122066
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ISAF has not recognized C Class for a long time...

Re: C class specs [Re: ccat] #122067
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Well, what is the advantage to being an ISAF recognized international class?

Re: C class specs [Re: Rolf_Nilsen] #122068
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You can hold "World Championships" officially and have a "World Champion" crowned at those "World Championships". If you're not an ISAF recognised international class, you cannot hold "World Championships".

Re: C class specs [Re: ncik] #122069
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Is that all? I bet you could hold a worlds, since "World Championship" is not trademarked (am I wrong?), but ISAF would go up in flames.

Re: C class specs [Re: Rolf_Nilsen] #122070
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Anyone who competes in a "worlds" that is not sanctioned by the ISAF (i.e. in a non-ISAF class) may forfeit eligibility to compete in worlds and continentals for ISAF classes for at least three years.

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Re: C class specs [Re: ] #122071
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Oh great. I remember Mary and Rick refering to some horror stories about just that.. But are there any other advantages to being an ISAF recognized class?

Re: C class specs [Re: Rolf_Nilsen] #122072
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In Australia national and ISAF classes sponsorship cash. So those traveling to a ISAF world event get either part of full funding to send the boat..

There are catches though

Re: C class specs [Re: Rolf_Nilsen] #122073
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Why not call it the "International Championship",or "Worldwide Championship"? Then they can't say it's a"World Championship."

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Re: C class specs [Re: DHO] #122074
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Or the Global Challenge <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

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Right, but are there other things an ISAF status will provide for a class? Stewart came with a very real reason for a class to be recognized.

Re: C class specs [Re: Rolf_Nilsen] #122076
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Info is what I recall may be old but....
Also I dont know the national Y.A. association in every country... So I can only give you what little I know in my locality..
The government grants cash to the national YA. association.. This is divided into administrative monies and sailing monies..
From the "sailing monies".. This is then given in various amounts to the "level" of class.. Olympic and International classes get the biggest share of the pot. All International class Reps get their traveling expenses subsidised. The boats may even be completely subsidised. The Class body gets a grant to administer the class and I suspect that included helping the class body to send officials.. Maybe even provide cash for coaching (but not certain)..
Then the national associations. Get cash to help transport boats around the country to cover or partly cover costs of the nationals.
Finally the state yachting class gets is share which is generally two fifths of spare change..
Then you have the state yachting asociation gets its share of the national "admin" grant and tops it up with state monies grants. This is again divided into into sailing monies and admin monies.. Again the most monies and administration/support time goes to the International classes get sponsored then the national then the state classes in that order get a share...
If a class wants to host an International event the YA seeks sponsorship/advertising for the event.. There is smaller interest in a national event.. A state event is not even on the agenda..

Re: C class specs [Re: Rolf_Nilsen] #122077
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Thanks alot for the info. As for a C class project. We'll have to see. "Supposedly" I have located an old C class the guy who has it in his back yard says that what it is. I have not seen it. again supposedly, he has all the peices. It might be a nice project. I'm going to check it out in the next month.

Re: C class specs [Re: avalondarlyn] #122078
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Check out this thread for C Class info.
http://www.sailinganarchy.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=59168

And if you are anywhere near Connecticut, Patient Lady is on display here: http://www.maritimeaquarium.org/home.html solid wing and all.


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