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Ben Hall talks about the wing #125761
12/07/07 09:14 AM
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Did everyone catch this? From xsracing...sorry if has been posted already. I thought it was interesting.
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Wednesday - December 5 2007 - 1449 PST - After sailing with a new wing mast at the A-Cat Worlds in Florida, all I can say is that it was awesome. It was a fun week and I learned a lot about sailing with a wing.

Dave Hubbard, the wing's designer, visited the regatta site and advised me on sail trim and offered moral support before the racing began. Dave has a long history of wing mast designs, including C-Class winners Patient Lady and Cogito as well as the 1988 America's Cup winner (Dennis Conners' 60-foot cat). His help was invaluable and saved me from learning everything the hard way.

How did I finish using the wing mast? I finished in the same place I normally finish at the Worlds. [Ben finished 30th out of 100.] Of course I was hoping for better results, but I'm happy that I was getting more out of the wing every day. My past performance is the only reference I have to measure the success of the wing, and based on this week of sailing I know it hasn't reached its full potential.

I do know that my boat was the fastest boat downwind in heavy air. In one race I passed 35 boats after rounding the weather mark back in 80th. I passed some boats to leeward, some to weather. It felt like an Indy Race, passing right and left on the track.

Then there were times when the wing proved slower. We sailed the first day in big chop. On port tack, sailing directly into the waves, the wing's higher center of gravity meant the boat was pitching more than usual. I didn't figure out the sail trim that day, so I know what I have to work on for the future. Also, I found that the wing could stall in bad air off the starting line but would quickly gain speed once I found free air.

I need more sailing time to learn trim in all conditions; only then can I truly evaluate the design. The construction of the wing was spot on - it held up perfectly throughout the week and even survived a hard capsize during a practice session. I have a feeling that 2008 will be the year of the wing.


John H16, H14
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Re: Ben Hall talks about the wing [Re: _flatlander_] #125762
12/07/07 09:57 AM
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Re: Ben Hall talks about the wing [Re: lesburn1] #125763
12/07/07 12:13 PM
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Side note: I got to meet Ben over the Thanksgiving week down at the Bitter End Yacht Club in Tortola. That was a surprise after reading about the Hall Spar facility here just weeks before.

This is Ben rounding ahead of me during the annual Turkey day regatta down there.

[Linked Image]

We were doing our Hobie Family Fun Week down there. Great time at a very cool place. You never know who is going to show up for races.


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Re: Ben Hall talks about the wing [Re: _flatlander_] #125764
12/08/07 04:24 PM
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fantastic effort anyway! looking awesome .
Really a challenge to get the wing performing better in wider range of circumstances !

Together with post I submit a pic of an much much much less sophisticated trial i did some years ago myself.
Good fun and interesting behaviour ! not faster , but more power ....
Now i am thinking hard were to find a breakthrough in an easier, lighter wing-a-like A cat sail...

Pieterjan A cat NED28

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