Stack the RV on top of the Hummer and trailer the boat behind it. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Have the Hummer tow the motorhome and put all your stuff on top of the motorhome. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I did see an RV towing a Hummer, towing a Pontoon boat coming down Rt. 27 here in Sebring a few weeks ago! If he can get away with that, you should be able to tow a sailboat trailer behind the Hummer too!

And you should see all the huge race car trailers in town for the big 12 hrs. of Sebring Le Mans race this week! Yummy! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

ok, I'm surprised that Wouter didn't say this so I will - look at an F-16. A used Taipan 4.9 or nice new Blade.

Heavier than the A for sure, but not near as heavy as other boats. I don't think the mast is as tall as the A, but you also get rig configuration changes that will satisfy just about every way you might want to sail (one up, two up, sloop, uni, spin...). If you want to tame it down for the kids to sail on their own have a sail maker build a smaller main for you. Not as rough and tumble as a Hobie can be treated, but maybe a little more so than an A. I'm sure a late night session with a couple of beers and you can engineer a set up to get it on top of the car without dropping your nuts on the parking lot.

The first time you have it yourself with the spin set smokin' downwind you'll be happy you made the choice.

If I were in your shoes this is the option I'd try very hard to make work.

Strategery, I don't think you said how old your kids are. That might make a big difference in the kind of boat you get.

Is there room on top of the RV for the hulls? Since they are narrow, it doesn't seem too crazy to come up with something to hoist them from the side of the RV. You would put the mast there so you would have to jump up anyway.

I liked the Weta by the way. But I can´t follow your acronyms.. (PHRF,OD,PTP,...)

Maybe he didn't bring it up because we get yelled at everytime we do.

I car-topped my first A-Cat when I got it. I do not know how you could car-top a Hobie Wave just because of the wieght involved. I think that the Weta is a great boat by the looks of it, but is it a good boat for kids. Some of the A's out there are probably to much for kids as well, but older woodies like the Fuller Catnip or ones like my Boyer MKIV would work well for kids. You can go to the US A Cat website and look at the A's for Sale link and find a few there, you can contact me at tsiders@hopkintoncc.com and I would be glad assist you if I can. The usaca site is http://www.usaca.info.

Remember an A fully rigged weighs 75kg and as far as the mast goes, I have never had an issue. I have cartopped many Tornado masts over long distances and even through cities like Boston, Houston and Atlanta without any problems. The T-Mast is 3 feet longer than the A mast. Just flag it at the aft end.

The Laser is a great learning boat and is easily car-topped. I have to disagree with Wouter on the "keep kids away from an A" statement. Older A's would be fine, the newer high performance, delicately built A's would be an issue.

I think we tend to underestimate the capabilities of youths.

I gotta agree on the laser...they're durable and fast when it gets blowing...or perhaps a force 5?

I used to car top a sunfish on the roll bar of my jeep wrangler in high school.....it was a little awkward to get it up there, but doable with a second set of hands to stablize it while I stepped up on the bumper and walked over the seats with it. I'd roll it up on my back and walk semi bent over........and I wonder why I have back issues.

I didn't advice the F16 for almost the same reasons as why I achieved against the A-class.

In those respects the two aren't that much different.

Of course it all dependent on the age of the kids, but below 14 years of age I think a F16 or A-class is alot to trust a kid or kids with. I believe young kids will just break stuff or be intimidated by the speed and power of both the A-class and F16. But you could have very mature and responsible kids and everything will work out fine, I don't know.

I wouldn't car top either unless I really had to. I can get my F16 alone on the trailer, but that is something else then getting a F16 on top of my car alone. Note that I do transport several of my landyachts on top of my car so I do have experience in this field. Even with those 4.7 mtr long masts (16 foot) I get pulled over by police and reprimanded. Lucky I mostly landyacht on sundays (mornings) and police are sparse then. Going twice the length on the mast would be a serious infringement in the opinion of the police, requiring to dismount the roof package and get it back home another + a decent fine.

With respect to data :

A-cat platform (part that goes on roof) about 50-55 kg = 110-121 lbs
F16 platform (part that goes on roof) about 65-70 kg = 143-155 lbs

Mast length A-class : 9.00-9.20 mtr = 29.5-30.2 ft
Mast length F16 : 8.5 mtr = 27.9 ft.

I'm my opinion a F12 would be seriously better option if that project hadn't blown up into several different directions. Even the laser dinghy or just a H16 or P16 with a trailer for 2000 bucks. P16 is about 130 kg in total with a platform weight of just under 100 kg. It can take more abuse then either A-class or F16's

But if you are going for catamaran the size and style of something like an A-class anyway then yes I think Keith has some good points about the F16. Certainly if you are looking at older A-cats as then there isn't much different to F16's at all in the department of weight for example

Wouter

I cartop the Wave all the time. I have the boat set up and broken down in 30 minutes at each end. However, he's said he doesn't want a slower boat like the wave. Lifting the whole platform on top of a Hummer would be a serious backbreaker for anyone short of world's strongest man contenders. If you've got the cash, I've seen some seriously cool trailers that haul a car on the bottom and have a 18-21' skiboat on top! I should think a special trailer would be best since cartopping a cat platform is time consuming and hard on the back. Are you hauling the RV with the hummer or vice versa? Assuming you would be hauling the Hummer with the RV here.

What's the price of gas over there????

Hummers have winches...

So, I really appreciate all the feedback - sounds like the F-16, Weta, old A-Cats and Wave are top choices.

Not going to do the Laser - they'll get plenty of that when they get to the sailing school level.

Thanks for the help.