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Northfield Mn | What's really the difference? I'm not looking at performance differences, more of the language. What makes a daggerboard a daggerboard, what makes a centerboard a centerboard?
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03/15/08 03:57 PM 03/15/08 03:57 PM |
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South Carolina | from "the street" a catamaran centerboard is commonly referred to a board that rotates up into the hull as on the Tornado, Hobie 17, or the new Nacra 5.8. A daggerboard is one that fits into to a slot in the hull and raised up through the hull.
A centerboard can have the capability of swinging back if hitting something underwater. A daggerboard does not.
A daggerboard is usually much longer and narrower than a centerboard and is a little more efficient at generating lift in the water.
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Key Largo, FL & Put-in-Bay, OH... | Well, you CAN lift a centerboard out on shore if you need to for maintenance or something. But otherwise, when you are sailing, when it swivels up, it is hidden inside the hull. As Jake said, if you hit something, it is able to "kick up" into its slot, whereas if you hit something with a daggerboard, it's, "Uh-oh."
In other words, you never really see the centerboard and it is not in your way above deck. But there is a roller (or something) that goes along the slot on the deck, and that rolls forward or aft, depending on whether you are raising or lowering the centerboard. | | | Re: Centerboard vs Daggerboard
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| Well, you CAN lift a centerboard out on shore if you need to for maintenance or something. But otherwise, when you are sailing, when it swivels up, it is hidden inside the hull. As Jake said, if you hit something, it is able to "kick up" into its slot, whereas if you hit something with a daggerboard, it's, "Uh-oh."
Mary: Don't ALWAYS count on that. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> When I first got my Hobie 17 and was new to them, the first time I took it out at Deep South I forgot to pull it up. When I hit the shore it snaped the pivot point off like snapping a twig!!!!! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" /> Doug | | | Re: Centerboard vs Daggerboard
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Dublin, Ireland | Well, you CAN lift a centerboard out on shore if you need to for maintenance or something. But otherwise, when you are sailing, when it swivels up, it is hidden inside the hull. As Jake said, if you hit something, it is able to "kick up" into its slot, whereas if you hit something with a daggerboard, it's, "Uh-oh."
Mary: Don't ALWAYS count on that. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> When I first got my Hobie 17 and was new to them, the first time I took it out at Deep South I forgot to pull it up. When I hit the shore it snaped the pivot point off like snapping a twig!!!!! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" /> Doug But it didn't open up the hull, which might have happened, if it was a daggerboard <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />
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| True. But centerboards aren't cheap either. About $250 a piece, Just remember to ALWAYS pull then up BEFORE you get close to the shore!! Hard lesson learned. Can't wait to experience daggerboards when I get the Blade. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
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“an island in the Pacifi... hobie1616
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“an island in the Pacifi... | We've got some friends on island. They decided to take a late afternoon whale watching cruise off the beach on a 50 foot cat equipped with daggerboards. As they were heading out the captain announced this was the first time in a month he'd been on the water so they were going to use the sails instead of motoring.
He headed out into the channel and beyond the wind line at a pretty good clip ignoring the fact that it was pretty rough and a number of the paying customers were getting a second taste of their early dinners. This was caused by him hitting on a babe back by the helm.
After finally realizing the passengers were losing weight fast, he tacked around and headed back to the beach while still chating up the babe.
The big head had had all its blood diverted to the little head which meant our lusty skipper had completely forgotten the boards were down until the boat came to an abrupt stop short of the beach. No one was hurt but one board was jammed into place.
The captain, who's blood has flooded back to the big head, and crew attempted to free it with block and tackle but it wasn't to be. The boat was finally taken to the Lahaina harbor where the somewhat lighter passengers were limoed back to their original departure point.
I'll hazard a guess that it'll be more than a month before our lightheaded skipper returns to the water.
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Vancouver, BC | Hey, you've left out an important detail: Did he score? Inquiring minds needto know! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> We've got some friends on island. They decided to take a late afternoon whale watching cruise off the beach on a 50 foot cat equipped with daggerboards. As they were heading out the captain announced this was the first time in a month he'd been on the water so they were going to use the sails instead of motoring.
He headed out into the channel and beyond the wind line at a pretty good clip ignoring the fact that it was pretty rough and a number of the paying customers were getting a second taste of their early dinners. This was caused by him hitting on a babe back by the helm.
After finally realizing the passengers were losing weight fast, he tacked around and headed back to the beach while still chating up the babe.
The big head had had all its blood diverted to the little head which meant our lusty skipper had completely forgotten the boards were down until the boat came to an abrupt stop short of the beach. No one was hurt but one board was jammed into place.
The captain, who's blood has flooded back to the big head, and crew attempted to free it with block and tackle but it wasn't to be. The boat was finally taken to the Lahaina harbor where the somewhat lighter passengers were limoed back to their original departure point.
I'll hazard a guess that it'll be more than a month before our lightheaded skipper returns to the water.
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“an island in the Pacifi... hobie1616
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“an island in the Pacifi... | Hey, you've left out an important detail: Did he score? Inquiring minds needto know! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> Doh! I forgot to ask and my friends left yesterday.
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Vancouver, BC | Hey, you've left out an important detail: Did he score? Inquiring minds needto know! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> Doh! I forgot to ask and my friends left yesterday. If he did, then the rest is incidental really, ain't it? <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
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03/19/08 12:13 PM 03/19/08 12:13 PM |
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| As stated above, centerboards are internally stored (in the hull) and usually "kick up" (slide back into the hull) when they hit an obstical.
Daggerboards can be removed from the boat and stored seperately. Daggerboards do not kick up of they hit something... they either stop the boat abruptly or rip through the hull and slowly stop the boat as it sinks. | | |
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