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Re: Last Time You Flipped [Re: warbird] #139488
04/09/08 04:06 PM
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It long to remember. I have come REAL close a few times on both the H-17 and the Mystere 4.3 (especially learning to fly the kite). Just lucky I guess, know what to do to save it at last minute. BUT I know I will when I get the Blade as it is a HOT boat and must be driven. Can't wait it get wet (LOL).

Doug

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Re: Last Time You Flipped [Re: ] #139489
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About 6 months ago.
Me and my non-sailing brother (we're working on that) were out on a rented Topcat K1 (German dart 18 knock-off). There was just enough wind to get her up on one float. He was on the tiller and we were double trapping and generally monkeying around. My Bro loves getting the luff float up as high as possible, unfortunately the rental trap loop wasn't long enough for me to walk on the side of the float as the platform approached 90 degrees, and I slipped off due to a wave (or jerky newbie steering?), ripping the hiking straps clean off and breaking the trap shock-cord (and almost my toe) in the process. Afterwards I realized I almost lost my glasses which weren't secured (big oops!)...
All in all it was a lot of fun, but very tiring to get back on the boat. Righting was done in a couple of minutes with no problems.

Re: Last Time You Flipped [Re: DennisMe] #139490
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Three weeks ago. 25 KTS+ and 10 foot seas beyond the reef between Islamorada and Key Largo. We were transitioning from heading upwind to a power-reach on the F18. Just as Tyler (Skipper) came in off trap we took a 10 footer over the side, throwing him into the boom and me from the rear footstrap through the fore-triangle in an effort to avoid landing on Tylers head. Bent the boom 45 decrees and pulled the bull cord out of the mast up to about half way. Limped back down wind to islamorada at 17 kts on the GPS hoping the main didn't come out all the way.

Re: Last Time You Flipped [Re: Tom Korz] #139491
04/09/08 08:42 PM
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Only once? Tough day....

Re: Last Time You Flipped [Re: Bajan_Bum] #139492
04/09/08 08:48 PM
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Spring Fever 2008, day 2, new Blade, spinnaker deployed, kind-of gusty.

crew (me): "Head down."
skipper: "I am heading down."
sploosh, glub, glub, glub

We were upright again in a minute or so.

Re: Last Time You Flipped [Re: ksurfer2] #139493
04/09/08 08:58 PM
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Spring fever 08....Thanks Jake! BTW....I did not notice, the water was cold????

Prior....Spacecoast 45 5knts of wind. Got caught sleeping when a gust came. blew us right over. Never saw it coming. Back up in 2 minutes. Still first boat to finish.


bastard...didn't get wet above the knees. You'd think we were sailing a laser or something. You just remember that next time I complain about being tired from driving the boat all day! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Last Time You Flipped [Re: Jake] #139494
04/09/08 09:11 PM
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[quote You just remember that next time I complain about being tired from driving the boat all day! [/quote]

It is amazing how tired you can get pushing that stick back and forth and changing sides... and yelling at the crew. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Re: Last Time You Flipped [Re: PTP] #139495
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Monterey bay first time out on my new hobie tiger. First time i drove a spin boat . Got a boat to leward and couldn't turn down. Flipped it and had the chute in the current . Got the chute in the bag and boat over but popped my shoulder out. Took 20 minutes to get back on the boat . Now i have a small rope step i can put down to get back on.


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Re: Last Time You Flipped [Re: F-18 5150] #139496
04/09/08 11:56 PM
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Monterey bay first time out on my new hobie tiger. First time i drove a spin boat . Got a boat to leward and couldn't turn down. Flipped it and had the chute in the current . Got the chute in the bag and boat over but popped my shoulder out. Took 20 minutes to get back on the boat . Now i have a small rope step i can put down to get back on.


I have a mate trying to work out a step arrangement..can you describe it?

Re: Last Time You Flipped [Re: Bajan_Bum] #139497
04/10/08 12:28 AM
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March 15...First day of Cat Fight 1 in San Diego. Unusually windy for SD with maybe 18 kts and gusts higher. Three times that day...once with the chute up during a race, once between races when we weren't paying attention, and once more during the race around the bay. Nothing broken except shockcord on the forward trap.


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Re: Last Time You Flipped [Re: RTodd] #139498
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Last week in a skiff on Tacticat! Didn't get wet though.


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Re: Last Time You Flipped [Re: PTP] #139499
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Last time I flipped,

Singlehanding at the Formula 16 global challenge aug 2007; Third day sailing, but second race day with big wind. 20-25 knots wind with gusts up to 30 knots, waves of over 6 feet.

On that single day I flipped the boat about 5 times in 2 different back to back 45 min races and righted it singlehandedly all times and continued to finish inside the time limit. Then I called it a day and let the 3rd race of the day slip. I was totally neckered. At the end I got so tired that I was making more and more mistakes and was getting closer and closer to flipping it more often.

If somebody is complianing about getting tired from just helming a whole day on a two-up boat then I always think :"You ain't see nothing yet, try doing a multiple day event singlehanded (helming and crewing) on a spinnaker boat in a blow and rough seastate !"

Wouter


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Re: Last Time You Flipped [Re: Wouter] #139500
04/10/08 06:39 AM
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How long ago? Last october, almost 5 months ago and no sailing.. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />


Wind conditions. About 8-10m/s I guess.

How long to right? About 5 minutes I suppose, but did not start the stopwatch..

Pitchpoled when twin wire reaching from A to B on the Tornado. Fresh crew in his 50s who had not sailed a dinghy since youth. Crew was thrown clear of the boat but managed to swim and get hold of it. I managed to clear off behind the mainsail but ripped my left eardrum as I hit the water awkward. Once we were back on the boat we righted the boat just by pulling on the dolphin striker. Getting both back on the boat was the problem. Had to walk out on the bow to get some lift under the sails.
Crew loved the experience he said, but I have not heard from him since..

Re: Last Time You Flipped [Re: RTodd] #139501
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Feb 17 2008.. LOVE STINKS REGATTA. Canceled due to high winds.

Started around 20-25knots but gusted above 30…

A few of us sailed upwind to an island and watched the other boats flying around. When we did the downwind run back to the beach, I had a few violent tacks. I was still learning my new Mystere 5.5.

During a jibe, my traveler line kinked and I powered up ... over I went.... I tried to hang on and fought it! I SHOULDNT HAVE!!!!... Through the window of my Tornado sail I went!

I did see a Nacra I20 also missing its window at the beach so I didn’t feel so bad!

I had JUST received my righting bag in the mail 2 days earlier!!!! IT WORKED

Re: Last Time You Flipped [Re: Rolf_Nilsen] #139502
04/10/08 08:33 AM
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Late last August
7 knots
needed assistance (DSQ)

Heading towards the shore to ride the lift to A mark, I could see the puff coming, well it wasn't a puff it was a GUST. As crew backed out on the trap and I let out main, realized the hull was raising way too fast so I instinctively threw the tiller over to head up and "save it". Whoops...the gust was also a radical header of what seemed like 30 degrees. Now we've got the hull up at 50 degrees the stern plowed in (no speed) and a backwinding jib. We blew over backwards. Capsized, rogue gust gone, wind back to normal, we're a light crew, the 20's a horse, (excuses...excuses) we flailed around for at least 10 minutes and finally took assistance to right. That evening at dinner I was asked "How did you flip in that stuff?" more than once. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Last Time You Flipped [Re: _flatlander_] #139503
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main halyard snapped while raising the sail about a year ago so I flipped it on the beach <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />



Re: Last Time You Flipped [Re: hokie] #139504
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Never. I can only get it to stand on its nose, then it kinda falls off to one side. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

Re: Last Time You Flipped [Re: fin.] #139505
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N E V E R ??

Tiki, you're not sailing hard enough!


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Re: Last Time You Flipped [Re: tback] #139506
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I think Tiki said he's never been able to do a full flip. He only gets 1/4 of the way there. Must not be able to get enough air to get the mast all the way under. A lot like first attempted flips on a knee board or wake board... not enough air... end up dragging the "mast" in the water. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

Re: Last Time You Flipped [Re: warbird] #139507
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Monterey bay first time out on my new hobie tiger. First time i drove a spin boat . Got a boat to leward and couldn't turn down. Flipped it and had the chute in the current . Got the chute in the bag and boat over but popped my shoulder out. Took 20 minutes to get back on the boat . Now i have a small rope step i can put down to get back on.


I have a mate trying to work out a step arrangement..can you describe it?


I tied a spectra line to the tramp attachment point at the rear x bar. then i measured out two steps one lower than the other tied them in and now have a "ladder" to step up with. I keep the rope in a small tramp bag tied off on the rear


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