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Re: Brainstorming help please PICTURE HOLDER [Re: hobiegary] #141798
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Re: Brainstorming help please PICTURE HOLDER [Re: hobiegary] #141799
05/06/08 04:53 AM
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As you are brainstorming, and I have no idea if this would work, but how about covering a hole with a waterproof breathable material like Goretex?

Gareth

Re: Brainstorming help please [Re: Luiz] #141800
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This inexpensive homemade valve can be used to relief compressed air from a hull. I guess it is easy to modify for your specific purpose.
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This is what is done on the floats (amas) of Corsairs/F-boats. My F-27 has one on each float near the front beam.

Re: Brainstorming help please PICTURE HOLDER [Re: grob] #141801
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Nice idea. I presume that the tiny "nub" on the back of my Garmin Etrex Legend is a gortex covered hole.

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As you are brainstorming, and I have no idea if this would work, but how about covering a hole with a waterproof breathable material like Goretex?

Gareth


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Re: Brainstorming help please [Re: Keith] #141802
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This inexpensive homemade valve can be used to relief compressed air from a hull. I guess it is easy to modify for your specific purpose.
[Linked Image]


This is what is done on the floats (amas) of Corsairs/F-boats. My F-27 has one on each float near the front beam.


I have one per watertight compartment per float, six in total.


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Re: Brainstorming help please [Re: hobiegary] #141803
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I think you'd be better off with the larger/higher flow rate (~150 cc/min) unit:

[Linked Image] TA242-1

A hull has an awful lot of volume in it and the mini valves are really designed for small electronic-type enclosures.

I found these a while back when looking for solutions for my centerboard & rudder vents. The Marstrom blades are hollow (not foam cored) and have tiny holes in them that I need to remember to tape off. It is just another thing to forget and I frequently did (still do!). Ultimately decided against the breather vavles...didn't want the protruding bits sitting where the current holes are...interfered with blade pivoting.


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Re: Brainstorming help please [Re: Tornado] #141804
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Will be sailing at 4000 feet in cold water, then trailering back up to house at 7400+.
This keeps me busy with the plugs.
When you guys try some of these valves, please post the results.


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Re: Brainstorming help please [Re: CHAS] #141805
05/07/08 01:47 PM
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Why not just install the standard 1" drain plugs on the transoms?


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Re: Brainstorming help please [Re: Timbo] #141806
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My Boyer a-cat has a small pin hole just under the top rudder gudgeon for pressure equalization...but then again, I don't plan on crossing any oceans with it.


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Re: Brainstorming help please [Re: Jake] #141807
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In case anyone is wondering which direction I've headed:

After looking at all the ideas we've generated, I've decided to go with my original plan of drilling a hole and using duct tape if I want it covered.

Since duct tape was invented for waterproofness reference, the history of *DUCK* tape that's good enough for me. I don't really expect that I'll need to cover the hole, but may do it on long outings, only after the hulls have have cooled. (my water temperature average is somewhere in the neighborhood of 60ºF)

I've drilled and refilled a 1/8" hole and will re-drill with 1/32". Not sure if I'll get enough flow through there; tests will tell. If not, I'll go with something larger. If I have to go larger than 3/8", then I'll probably just mount a standard drain hole, high on the transom. (probably the windsurfer type that was mentioned early in the thread)

Test reports will follow, in time.

GARY


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Re: Brainstorming help please [Re: hobiegary] #141808
05/08/08 11:42 AM
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Recommend against regular duct tape...it falls apart rather quickly and leave an nasty sticky mess. 3M now sells an much better outdoor clear duct tape...has reinforcing fibre, holds up for months at a time and comes off without the mess.

I use it in many places on my boat...especially for the sharp edges on the mast hounds/shackles where the spinny might contact.


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Re: Brainstorming help please [Re: hobiegary] #141809
05/08/08 12:57 PM
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In case anyone is wondering which direction I've headed:

After looking at all the ideas we've generated, I've decided to go with my original plan of drilling a hole and using duct tape if I want it covered.

Since duct tape was invented for waterproofness reference, the history of *DUCK* tape that's good enough for me. I don't really expect that I'll need to cover the hole, but may do it on long outings, only after the hulls have have cooled. (my water temperature average is somewhere in the neighborhood of 60ºF)

I've drilled and refilled a 1/8" hole and will re-drill with 1/32". Not sure if I'll get enough flow through there; tests will tell. If not, I'll go with something larger. If I have to go larger than 3/8", then I'll probably just mount a standard drain hole, high on the transom. (probably the windsurfer type that was mentioned early in the thread)

Test reports will follow, in time.

GARY


That will be plenty large enough.


Jake Kohl
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