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Switching from I17 ->I20 #143804
05/21/08 10:08 AM
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Hi all!

I am planning to move from the Inter17 to the Inter20.

One of the big (obvious) changes will be the need for dividing tasks between myself and crew.

Is anyone aware of a list/sheet/checklist that I can use to start planning and training the different tasks?

Do you have advice on other issues that I should think about in switching from the Inter17(+gen) tot the I20?


Kind regards,
Martijn


Martijn Balhuizen
I20-The Netherlands
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Re: Switching from I17 ->I20 [Re: mbalhuizen] #143805
06/07/08 07:59 AM
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Hello Mart

After racing an I-17 It should be easier racing with crew.

I,ve raced both I-20 and 17 singlehanded and the only real difference is size and small variations in the set up .

Every crew OR TEAM does things a little differently .

Most all I 20s crews set and snuff the spin and most play the spin sheet line though in light wind some skippers play it .

It takes practise to work as a team and it is a good idea to switch places and communicate well.

Locally there is a large active fleet of I-17s --you may find some usefull info on the CRAM site .

One thing I would like to see is development of a class standard lightweight high speed winch system in the loop for raising and lowering the kite . The loop COULD eliminate most slack in the line and that would eliminate the kite from ever dipping into the water.

{just my 2 cents}

I cut off most of the extra line though some lead it to the back crossbeam so the skipper can help with the sets .

Hope that is helpfull .

best regards

and here is a link to CRAM for any interested

http://www.websitemagic.com/cram/

Re: Switching from I17 ->I20 [Re: Carl] #143806
06/16/08 09:58 AM
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Carl, thanks for your information.


Martijn Balhuizen
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Re: Switching from I17 ->I20 [Re: Carl] #143807
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Some added info on I-20 and 17 class activity --for any interested .

http://nacraclass.com/F17.htm

http://nacraclass.com/N20.htm

Re: Switching from I17 ->I20 [Re: mbalhuizen] #143808
08/19/08 02:10 PM
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Something you can should do, train your crew to work the mainsheet upwind, this will allow you to concentrate on steering, wind, waves, etc. This works very well in big wind, where one hand on the sheet is not enough. Have him/her hand it back to you just prior to a tack, then as soon as the crew is back out on the wire, give it back to them. You will be free to adjust the traveler then.

Also, train you crew to stand up on the tramp, reach up the mast and pull stratight down on the spin halyard, instead of kneeling on the tramp pulling backwards, smacking you in the chin with their elbows. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> The spin will come right up in about 3-4 good pulls.

Last edited by Timbo; 08/19/08 02:11 PM.

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Re: Switching from I17 ->I20 [Re: Timbo] #143809
09/05/08 11:35 AM
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Home is where the harness is.....
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Home is where the harness is.....
Here's a list of duties for the I-20

Skipper
- steer

Crew
- EVERYTHING else <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Re: Switching from I17 ->I20 [Re: Will_R] #143810
09/05/08 01:55 PM
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You forgot the most important job for the skipper:

Complain that the crew isn't doing anything right...


Jay

Re: Switching from I17 ->I20 [Re: Will_R] #143811
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What's your point?????? <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


If your havin girl problems i feel bad for you son
I got 99 problems but my beautiful wife ain't one
Re: Switching from I17 ->I20 [Re: ksurfer2] #143812
09/15/08 09:05 AM
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http://www.thebeachcats.com/classifieds/showproduct.php/product/1310/cat/1
Not an I-20, but a race ready N-20 is available from Chris Titcomb.


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Re: Switching from I17 ->I20 [Re: windswept] #143813
09/15/08 11:32 AM
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Same thing I thought?


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Re: Switching from I17 ->I20 [Re: ksurfer2] #143814
09/15/08 03:25 PM
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What's your point?????? <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


The point is I will bring my cup and try to fend off your 'reminders' that I'm not trimming correctly! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


Jay


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