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F18 Worlds 1st day Results #148841
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http://f18.es/nigran2008/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=56


- Mischa Heemskerk 1st
- Cammas got a bullet.
- Macca 13th! For sure he can walk the talk in this forum....
- Booth is way down
- Infusions leads the way

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Re: F18 Worlds 1st day Results [Re: F18arg] #148842
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- Infusions leads the way


except of course for the guy who is leading the event on a Tiger

Re: F18 Worlds 1st day Results [Re: ] #148843
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Oooops
You´re right, thought Misha was on Infusion as I remembered him riding one in Aruba , didn´t check twice... sorry for that.


National letters: NED
Sail number: 007
Brand of boat: Hobie Tiger
Helsman Name: Mischa Heemskerk
Crew Name: Bastiaan Tentij

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So to have accurate Info I think we have:

1 Heemskerk Tiger
2 Coen de Koning Infusion
3 Gunnar Larse Infusion
4 Greg Goodall Capricorn
5 Vaireux Tiger
6 Cammas Infusion
7 Gnosspelius Capricorn
8 Mourniac Tiger
9 Sascha Larsen Infusion
10 Wolf Capricorn
11 Bontemps Bimare X4
12 Morvan Cirrus
13 MacPherson Infusion
14 Sellier Diam
15 Landenberger Capricorn

Re: F18 Worlds 1st day Results [Re: F18arg] #148845
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With a mix like that you would have to say that in F18s at least design has nothing to do with results. Most F18 sailors have been saying this for years but its hard to convince people not in or new to the class.

Re: F18 Worlds 1st day Results [Re: ] #148846
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About to say the same.
Almost every brand present there.

Re: F18 Worlds 1st day Results [Re: F18arg] #148847
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Greg Goodall gives me inspiration. If any of us can sail that well at his age you doing bloody well!

Imagine where he might be if he still had the body of a 20 year old.


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Re: F18 Worlds 1st day Results [Re: Dazz] #148848
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Some F18 World Champs coverage on the groupama web site.
http://www.cammas-groupama.com

Re: F18 Worlds 1st day Results [Re: Dazz] #148849
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No doubt and a nice guy too.


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Re: F18 Worlds 1st day Results [Re: David Ingram] #148850
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Here's an interview with Cammas and his crew (in english):
http://bymnews.com/news/newsDetails.php?id=29266

Re: F18 Worlds 1st day Results [Re: Tony_F18] #148851
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In looking at the scores, there are 2 of each score. Did they split the fleet into an A and B, is there some sort of rotation, or am I just not reading the results right?


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Re: F18 Worlds 1st day Results [Re: ksurfer2] #148852
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Two flights per race. I think there's 60 boats or so in each flight, so about 120 boats in the event. They'll make the cut into Gold and Silver fleets after tomorrow.

JC says "Hi everyone." It has been a light 6-8 knot event so far. Possibly up to about 12 knots for tomorrow. Jacques Bernier from Hobie Cat USA is crewing for Taylor Booth - they are in 11th after five races.

Update from Cammas at http://www.cammas-groupama.com/en/courses/f18_worlds_2008/news/actu_f18_worlds_04.jsp


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Re: F18 Worlds 1st day Results [Re: John Williams] #148853
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Interesting that the official website actually has Greg Goodall at 21st......not 4th??

http://f18.es/nigran2008/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=56

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Re: F18 Worlds 1st day Results [Re: ClaytonF16] #148854
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Interesting that the official website actually has Greg Goodall at 21st......not 4th??

http://f18.es/nigran2008/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=56

He dropped a lot of places on the 2nd day, finishing 19th and 23rd.
Cammas is showing what a skilled sailor he is, good for him that the wind is light.
Interesting battle between Mischa and his former student Coen, looks like there's some very close racing going on there.

Re: F18 Worlds 1st day Results [Re: David Ingram] #148855
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How old is Greg???

Re: F18 Worlds 1st day Results [Re: Tony_F18] #148856
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Cammas performance is quite impresive. Although he is being helped by light weather as he points. Over 12-15knots, more experienced F18 sailors will prevail as Cammas also report in his own site.

Re: F18 Worlds 1st day Results [Re: F18arg] #148857
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Greg is 54 years old and sailing with son Brett who is about to turn 24.


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54?? nice, so the age range for competitive Tornado/F18 sailing is huge.
Santiago Lange is 46! And Hagara, Booth and else are somewhere mid 40s too

Re: F18 Worlds 1st day Results [Re: John Williams] #148859
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Looks like there will be 6 qualifying races before the split into a Gold and Silver fleet. Does anyone know if the scores from the qualifying races carry over into the finals, or do they start from scratch after the split?

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"...The final races will start on the day following sixth race. On the day of sixth qualification race it will be possible to race other qualification races, an incomplete third round robin is no ground for redress under RRS 62. The score of all qualification races, except the one excluded will be valid" - - http://f18.es/nigran2008/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12&Itemid=28

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JC pulls out a 2nd in race 6!!!! Way to go dude!!!!!


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Re: F18 Worlds 1st day Results [Re: F18arg] #148862
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Overall rankings (provisional) for the first 6:
1/ de Koning - van Leeuwen (NED) : 23 points - 2 / 2 / 8 1 / Koning - van Leeuwen (NED) 23 points - 2 / 2 / 8
2/ Mouniac - Citeau (FRA) : 48 points - 15 / 4 / 7 2 / Mouniac - Citeau (FRA): 48 points - 15 / 4 / 7
3/ Moana - Petit (FRA) : 48 points - 11 / 6 / 9 3 / Moana - Petit (FRA): 48 points - 11 / 6 / 9
4/ Cammas - Lagarrigue (FRA) : 49 points - 27 / 10 / 2 4 / Cammas - Lagarrigue (FRA): 49 points - 27 / 10 / 2
5/ Booth - Bernier (NED) : 53 points - 1 / 3 / 3 5 / Booth - Bernier (NED): 53 points - 1 / 3 / 3
6/ Styles - Piggott (GBR): 56 points - 28 / 1 / 1 6 / Styles - Piggott (GBR): 56 points - 28 / 1 / 1

The overall results will probably shuffle again tomorrow when they get another discard.

Re: F18 Worlds 1st day Results [Re: Tony_F18] #148863
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1) de Koning Infusion
2) Cammas Infusion
3) Heemskerk Tiger


1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11
1 NED 3 Coen de Koning 40 1 3 1 5 1 -7 2 2 8 -20 17
2 FRA 1 Cammas Franck 42 -11 1 4 1 3 1 -27 10 2 12 8
3 NED 7 Heemskerk 45 1 1 15 1 6 (bfd 4 -36 12 1 4
4 FRA 11 Mourniac 50 3 11 1 2 5 -13 15 4 7 -29 2
5 GBR 957 Hugh Styles 54 -15 6 6 9 2 3 -28 1 1 21 5
6 NED 1 Mitch Booth 57 17 16 5 2 6 (bfd 1 3 3 4 dnf
7 NED 955 Gunnar Larsen 65 2 4 3 -17 9 4 12 8 -15 8 -15
8 AUS 308 Landenberger 69 4 -15 7 4 4 2 8 32 5 3 -33
9 AUS 959 Macpherson 71 -8 8 7 6 4 6 -39 24 6 9 1
10 FRA 56510 Vaireaux 86 8 2 2 8 2 -9 11 6 9 -41 38
11 NED 76 Van der Meulen 89 20 13 8 3 1 -22 6 -27 11 15 12
12 GER 164 Helge 108 27 -31 12 7 21 12 16 7 4 2 -26
13 FRA 5 Sellier Thomas 111 15 3 2 13 -22 11 13 18 (dnf 25 11
14 NED 952 Willem Geijssen 112 -22 7 3 4 16 8 30 13 10 -55 21
15 GER 163 Justus Wolf 115 5 8 20 7 20 -23 25 -45 13 14 3
16 AUS 136 Greg Goodal 117 4 5 19 23 -26 9 5 -22 20 18 14
17 FRA 17 Romainm 122 2 19 -39 12 9 4 3 28 (bfd 11 34
18 NED 930 Sascha Larsen 123 7 6 14 10 12 -41 17 11 16 30 bfd
19 SWE 4 Forsgren 142,4 ocs 21 24 -29 27 1 -26 16 17 7 9
20 SWE 11 Gnosspelius 145 3 10 8 3 12 -23 22 40 -45 34 13

Re: F18 Worlds 1st day Results [Re: F18arg] #148864
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Who's the first-place non-pro amateur team? Not trying to take anything away from the winner, at all - I'm just curious.


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Re: F18 Worlds 1st day Results [Re: John Williams] #148865
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If the definition of non-pro is not being sponsored by factories or anything else I guess it would be #11 NED 76 Van der Meulen (Capricorn).
He sails with his girlfriend and always scores very well (2nd overall at Round Texel).

Re: F18 Worlds 1st day Results [Re: Tony_F18] #148866
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No Sailno Name
1 NED 3 Coen de Koning Infusion
2 FRA 1 Cammas Franck Infusion
3 NED 7 Mischa Heemskerk Tiger
4 FRA 11 Mourniac Tiger
5 GBR 957 Hugh Styles Infusion
6 NED 1 Mitch Booth Tiger
7 NED 955 Gunnar Larsen Infusion
8 AUS 308 A Landenberger Capricorn
9 AUS 959 A Macpherson Infusion
10 FRA 56510 Vaireaux Tiger
11 NED 76 Van der Meulen Capricorn
12 GER 164 Helge Capricorn
13 FRA 5 Sellier Thomas Diam
14 NED 952 Willem Geijssen Infusion
15 GER 163 Justus Wolf Capricorn
16 AUS 136 Greg Goodall Capricorn
17 FRA 17 Motteau Romainm Capricorn
18 NED 930 Sascha Larsen Infusion
19 SWE 4 Patrik Forsgren Capricorn
20 SWE 11 J Gnosspelius Capricorn




Final Numbers

Capricorn 8 40%
Infusion 7 35
Tiger 4 20
Diam 1 5
Cirus 0 0
X4 0 0
Total 20 100

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