So I've been really good at capsizing the past few weeks. Gybes gone wrong with the chute up, as in taking too long then accidentely not making it onto the new tack. I know what I'm doing wrong, I'm just being a wimp and not going into it with speed and some testes. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

My problem has been that when that I can't get the mast and the bows into the wind. I've been hanging off the bow and the tip of the mast just won't make it through the wind. This past weekend I tipped, couldn't get it to turn. What I ended up doing was standing on the back of the hull and cartwheeling the boat to get it orientated correctly. Worked well enough but time consuming.

Any advice?

Karl,

In a nutshell, get a righting bag. Then it won't matter about all the other techniques. Just make sure your mainsheet and traveler are uncleated, get water in the bag, and presto, up she comes! BTW, I have one on my F17.

Bob <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

When you say hanging off the bow, is your body in the water? You will probably have to get the spin stowed then slide back into the water at the bow. The extra drag (and perhaps a few kicks) should get things turning.

I have a righting bag, spin is in. Getting it up with the bag is no problem once its orientated correctly. Bigger bag? I have the smaller, (85lb claimed), bag. I can get it back up in probably 15 seconds once the bag is full and everything else is ready to go.

I was hanging from the bow that was in the air. Stern of the boat was out of the water a ways but it just wouldn't turn for me so I could get the bows upwind. When I try to right it with the wind coming from the stern it'll just spin around downwind and not come up.

I'm in the same bag with my F17. I have a hard time getting it pointed the right way. I have found that if you get down on the bow, then us the righing line to try and pull the mast tip to the surface so it isn't down in the water, it will start come around.

I had a thought this weekend about this, as I had the same issue, twice. I wonder if the wings are the issue with one being in the water and the boat being pushed through the wind on its side creating some resistance. I will say they are handy for getting the boat up from turtle though!