I would think the 81942 would be the way to go so it can pivot for better sheeting angle. I have never used these so i dont really know alot about it, but makes sense for them to pivot?
If anyone has any experience with a set up like this maybe they can add some insight.
I really dont know much about the Nacra 5.0 set up... but unless the current jib blocks are on the front beam also i am sure it will effect the shape of the jib. As to how it will effect performance..... unk (but my guess is it will change the shape/effect the pocket/ reduce performance)...
I would try the $3.00 bungie solution first to see if this handles the issue and leave the boat stock for a while.
Do you have a picture of how the jib blocks are on the 5.0?
Tie the shock cord to the top of the turnbucle rather than the bottum and it will go away. If im understanding you right the jib sheet is getting hung up under the turnbuckle and not the mast base. Another thing to do is to put a few wraps of tape around the turnbucle so there is nothing for the sheets to hang on.
Don't drill your crossbeam, you're just going to weaken it.
What you want to rig is called a 'barber-hauler.' Hell, you can hang a bunji from your beam or something, shroud, whatever, to the jib clew if you want to keep it really simple. Just something to pull the clew outboard.
If that is a 5.0 there is no way i would move the jib blocks forward. they already look too forward. It is my understanding you basically want the jib sheet to pull equally on top (leach) and bottom (foot) of the jib.
Placing tracks on the front beam would be pulling much more of the back of the sail (Leach)
lol... my gf calls my boat "your mistress". I told her i tried to cuddle with my boat.. it was to hard to get in my bedroom...
When she asked why boats are named after women, i said they demand all your attention, and suck your wallet dry... just like a woman. That didnt sit so well. Lastly... i learned... gf and spinnaker don't get along with eachother... i am not even allowed to mention that word around my gf... lol...
Hard lessons learned the hard way. (banished from the bedroom to a hard couch)
I'm trying to get my wife interested in sailing. She went out on that friends hobie I was talking about one time while I watched our 10 month old from the beach.
It's a bit difficult to both get out on our boat with the little tyke. One of us is always relegated to babysitting duty.
Can't wait till he gets old enough to come out with us. What do you think the magic age would be? (in a nice safe 5-10 of course.)
And how do I adjust the trapeze such to get said 10 month old out on the wire?! On second thought...I'd rather not have to rename the boat "Divorce Finalized"
yeah, don't do the track...just rig up a barber hauler at the outer end of the beams. Basically, run your jib sheets (each side) through a simple ring - plastic is fine. Tie a line to that ring and run it through a block at the end of the respective beam. Arrange a cleat for this barber-hauler line. When sailing upwind, the barber-hauler is loose and lets the jib sheet right to where the blocks are. When sailing off the wind, you cinch the barber-hauler line (takes a split second) and it pulls the sheets to the outer end of the beam and gives better shape to the jib for sailing deep. Most systems run the hauler line and cleat to the opposite side of the boat since that is typically where you will be when setting it.
That really depends on the kid. If the child is a good listener, and doesn’t have "ants in his pants" and can sit still... and YOU are proficient...
I sail with a buddy who's 3 year old is good crew. She loves it. He also has a front tramp and has alot of room where she can sit and not be in the way, nor in harms way (boom, sheets, etc)
I have also sailed with a girl who brought her bratty 13 year old. He refused to listen to what I said, wouldnt move when i needed him to, and was a liability. If the weather turned, it would have been dangerous for him.
I considered raising him up to the top of the mast, but couldn’t figure out how to rig a double halyard <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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Jake, I think I understand the concept but I don't fully understand how to rig this barber hauler. You don't by any chance have a picture of a barber hauler rigged cat do you?
What is a block again? Is that a pulley that's anchored to the boat?
Andrew, sounds like the brat needed to be sent overboard and dragged behind the boat. I'm not looking forward to when my son thinks he knows more than me. I guess what comes around goes around <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Jake, I think I understand the concept but I don't fully understand how to rig this barber hauler. You don't by any chance have a picture of a barber hauler rigged cat do you?
Very simple.... rig as image shows
Pull on the white line to adjust as needed!
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I have my barber hauler rigged as the image shows… a floating peace on the jib sheets (circled in green) then the line (highlighted in yellow) runs through a very small block (at the far ends) and cleat on the beam.
There are many ways to rig this, and you could probably run through your front beam (and end caps) to avoid drilling and rivets in your beam....
Next time you sail, just ask other boaters if they have one and see how they run it.
If you use the search feature here.. there is alot of data.
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What is a block again? Is that a pulley that's anchored to the boat?
Yup - it is also the pulley system that you sheet the mainsail in with, and the pulley you sheet the jib in with....etc
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The blue line is pulled on and the jib sheets are moved outward. Uncleat and the jib is back to its normal position. As Jake and Andrew said there are several ways to do this. Here's the set-up on my 5.2
Jake, I think I understand the concept but I don't fully understand how to rig this barber hauler. You don't by any chance have a picture of a barber hauler rigged cat do you?
Very simple.... rig as image shows
Pull on the white line to adjust as needed!
ohhhhhhhhhhhhh that makes perfect sense <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
OK so any "pulley" is called a block?
Thanks for the pictures guys. Having them helps me a lot. I'm more of a visual learner.
I'm trying to think how I would do this without doing any drilling.
I suppose I could tie a line around the front beam between the hull and the tramp. There's just enough space to get a line through there. I could make a loop in the line and then tie it there, and then thread the barber hauler line through the loop and then to the jib sheet. but I'm not sure how I would cleat the hauler line...
Maybe attach another block at the point the jib's are attached?
Hey andrew, I like that netting you've got set up on your tramp btw.
I don't like transporting the Nacra with the rudders attached and when the kiddo is traveling with us I don't have enough room to put them in the Subaru. Maybe I could lay them on the tramp and secure them with some cargo netting....
I'm trying to think how I would do this without doing any drilling.
You could run the line THROUGH the end caps (with some drilling to the caps)...but i think you will need to drill somewhere for cleats.
I dont know why you were told not to drill the beam.. as you can see.. we all have cleats and blocks and eyestraps on our beams...
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Hey andrew, I like that netting you've got set up on your tramp btw.
Thanks,... the trunk of my car misses it... but it was in the way of my rudders and fit my cat so well!!!
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I don't like transporting the Nacra with the rudders attached and when the kiddo is traveling with us ... I could lay them on the tramp and secure them with some cargo netting....
Ohhhh.... secure them well if you try that.. ... you wont believe what rudders, castings, rudder arms, etc. cost to replace (not to mention the damage they would do to a car that hit them if they flew off your cat in transit).