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Re: Rule clarification, grandfathered boats. [Re: waynemarlow] #154140
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Now now boys F Fifteens is only a small part of the reason, one course for all doesn't always suit everybody, but when you are a club you try and cater for a very widely different number of classes with minimum resources.

Datchet tries to cater for all by having the first race W/L and the next race a mix of Triangle followed by sausage.

Seems to work, they get typically good numbers even on a cold wet morning like this morning.

As to doing it wrong, a certain participant did Triangle followed by sausage and was told he was wrong as the other cats did sausage triangle, I still came last so I'm just even more confused now. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />


At Grafham the Fast cats and the Asym mono's sail W/L all the time. Slow cats and other Mono's sail around the cans


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Re: Rule clarification, grandfathered boats. [Re: waynemarlow] #154141
09/08/08 04:25 PM
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Yeah, don't think we can blame the FFs for the course - cats alternate between W/L and triangle-sausage, wheareas FFs always do triangle-sausage (I think), as opposed to the asymmetrics who always do W/L.

Only problem with alternating is that noone can ever remember which one it is...

Who's coming to the club championship next weekend?

Paul

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Re: Rule clarification, grandfathered boats. [Re: pepin] #215763
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Originally Posted by pepin
My boat is a Stealth 'R'. It is not compliant with the box rules because it predates it (for example the hull length is 5.03m, 3cms longer than 5 meters). However this boat has been grandfathered as is into the F16 class, so I can sail it as a F16 with its original set of non compliant sails (sail area is similar, but the distribution is different as the jib is larger than allowed by the box rules).[...]

Now, if I put a larger main (compliant with the box rule, but no longer compliant with the original class setup) the letter of the rule says this boat is a F16 no longer! This seem a little harsh as I plan to sail solo and losing 1.5m of sail area can't be good.[...]


Fast forward two years: Issue resolved.

A F16 council resolution is giving all pre-2002 Stealth hulls a pass on their length (recently measured at 5.02m on my boat).

This is all playing in my hand right in time as I now have the psychological advantage to be the owner of the longest F16 at Como: My boat is longer than yours smile

Re: Rule clarification, grandfathered boats. [Re: pepin] #215766
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Damn! There goes my one opportunity of not coming last....by protesting your length at the end of the regatta grin

Guess I'll have to find some other technicality now.......

Re: Rule clarification, grandfathered boats. [Re: DanTnz] #215769
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Originally Posted by DanTnz
....by protesting your length at the end of the regatta grin


shocked blush


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