| Prindle 19 Spinnaker?? #156218 09/30/08 11:10 AM 09/30/08 11:10 AM |
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Posts: 70 | I'm currently upgrading from a Prindle 18C (see classifieds) to a P19 (non-MX). The two upgrades I want to do to the 19 to make it more competitive (my wife is tired of losing <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> ) is MX it and add a spinnaker. MX'ing a 19 is well documented so no problem there.
What I can't find is any information on how to and what equipment is needed to add a spinnaker setup.
Anyone got any info, hints, tips or hardware recommendations?
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ButchG Prindle 19 w/Spi | | | Re: Prindle 19 Spinnaker??
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#156219 09/30/08 12:25 PM 09/30/08 12:25 PM |
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Posts: 40 Mesa, AZ | Actually, you wont be able to use the MX jib as it extends to far down and it would conflict the spinnaker pole. I have heard some people cutting a pie shape/sliver off the bottom of the jib to make it work, or just using the MX main and standard jib.
If I were to do it, I would basically thieve an F18 setup. Sheet it to the shroud like theirs. I got a lot of stuff from performancecat, just because of accessibility. I used a the bale for the N-20 on the top and just bent/made it work for the P19 mast. I have seen other setups that do away with the bale, but they all work the same.
All, in all, I think you are on the right track. With the F18 flat cut spin, and MX main and standard jib, the boat will run. Randy Smyth beat a many a boat rated faster, but that is Randy. Good luck and keep us posted.
Jonathan Grant Mesa, AZ Nacra 20 former P19 - 350 ft spin (yea, too big and fat) | | | Re: Prindle 19 Spinnaker??
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#156220 09/30/08 01:47 PM 09/30/08 01:47 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,116 Annapolis, MD Mark Schneider
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Posts: 3,116 Annapolis, MD | You want to look at a Tornado for ideas as well Robbie Daniel pimped a P19 in Florida this way. IMO.. the Tornado chute proved a bit to much for the boat though in a blow.
Your basic problem is that you can't have the pole too low... or you will pull the bows together.
Harry in MD pimped his P19 out with a Tornado chute, tramped bag launched and stock jib. He used a Nacra 6.0 foil to protect the bows... Way to much crap on the boat... it's nose heavy and the spin is too low.
IMO... i would keep the existing bridle (safe for the bows). have the jib recut with a clew plate for a self tacker or get a new one. Nacra sells the track and kit to rivet onto the front beam. Use a piece of dynema for a spin bale and an F18 spinaker mid pole system. You probably can sheet the chute from the shroud... Or try using a car on the old jib track slider if the lead is not right.
Remember... the huge mx jib was to compete with the SA of the Hobie 20... Once you add the spin.... the jib is in the way. So... you want high aspect self tacking jib for max upwind performance.
IMO... The Tornado chute is a bit much on a P19.... The luff is a bit too long and so the pole is very low .. even with max mast rake.... and then you need a dolphin stiker on the pole to keep it in column and loaded. The F18 chute should be a good fit.
Lots of sailmakers can build a max area main. just remember you can't rake aft too much... because you have to sheet hard enough to close the leach without going block to block. This setting then sets your pole height... which then sets your spin luff length.
Work from the back of the boat foward.
have fun
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#156222 09/30/08 09:46 PM 09/30/08 09:46 PM |
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Posts: 22 New Jersey | I have a MX main that Randy Smyth made up for my P19.
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Posts: 70 | I have a MX main that Randy Smyth made up for my P19. Bob, you get my PM? | | |
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