Seems like there was about 30 in the US as one point--where's they all go? Are there any active 18HT fleets?

Well,

#6 is now a Frankencat.

PM for Bill Vining's email as he probably has tracked most of them.

Jim.

They are still around. When the class cratered, most of the boats got sold at a discount. Some got sold to guys that dont race them, some are sitting waiting to be used again, some are unaccounted for. Most of them on the east coast, 1-NH, 3-CT, 2-NY, 2-RI, 1-PA,1-FL, Couple in VA. One is still in Chicago.

There are no active fleets.

Why do you ask?

The girls have picked them ev'ry one.

I have a jav2 that I purchased down in MD and now keep in Rochester NY

Send me a pm with your sail number and contact info.

We might have to get the band back together.

????

Where have all the flowers gone

...When will they ever learn, when will they evvvver learn?

It was a hippy-folk type war protest song a long time ago, I think. Oh but I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now.

(from another hippy song)

Someone got some Dylan we can listen to? <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

The answer my friends, is blowing in the wind... <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

Jeremiah was a bullfrog...

I think I was at that concert. If it is the same one then not mentioned were Steppenwolf and Three Dog Night.

I keep #12 on Lake Coeur d' Alene in northern ID. It's kinda lonley there, mostly a few H16s for company. Heard an FX One arrived this fall but haven't seen it yet. I've got a couple more weeks til the season sadly ends here. Then I'll have to content myself with implementing more of Bill's tweaks. Love the boat!

Dave

#5 and one more (can't remember the number) near Pensaola.. mast up, same place on the water too!

There are/were more than 50 Javelin 2 F18HT in the US.
The first was shipped in January 200l to race the Tradewind Regatta. The latest 24 in early 2003 to compete in the Worrell 1000. The others in between

This was claimed often by one particular source (mostly you and W.F.) but the fraternaty of beach cat builders tell a different story. At one time, it was claimed also that 50 Jav's 16 were on order/build when the Jav 16 had only been launched 2 months or so. The same source said that many were going to the USA and make F16 life very difficlt. Even back then we discarded that claim as being given by a lunatic.

I dare say on record right here that I don't believe for one second that there are 50 F18HT's in north America (USA, Canada and Mexico). I have never found the proof for that, builders deny it and in race results we only seen about 10 to 15 boats appear (all together only 2 times). I put the real number of imported boats much closer to 25. A good number of them (Alter cup boats) remained unsold in W.F. garden for very long times.

It was all just one big hype much like the investment banks stock market is right now. Looked good on paper but the real presence was highly overleveraged. This allowed the class to vanish in a rediculously short timeframe after it hit a snag.

Wouter

Wouter,

if I buy you this book as a gift, will you read it?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/How-Talk-Anyone-...0623&sr=8-1

Please dont drag the F16s into discussions like this. It only makes us look bad, and to no benefit for anybody.

Trust me or not in the US, Canada and Mexico there are (or there were) more than 50 Javelin 2.
I do know for sure of 3 boats which suffered major damages (ashore, sailing or travelling).
However I don't know if a few of them are still unsold in WF's garden.
For sure by the end of 2001 13 Javelin 2 were shipped to the US and at least the same number by the end of 2002.
Add the 24 shipped for the Worrell 1000 (if you remember the USD 5,000 registration fee include the rent of a new boat for the race)

The 24 boats never showed up for the W1000 in 2003, which would make it only 20-something 18HT's in North America.

The 40' container with the Alter Cup boats left Italy in December 2002. A second 40' container left in early February 2003.
While I am sure that the Alter Cup boats materialized (the race was regularly sailed) I do not know about the fate of the others
I hope this help to clarify the situation

Timbo,

Since you survived the 70's (I love that Geico commercial related to that... "Pow!"), how did you deal with all that polyester chaffing?

And did those gold chains get tangled in your chest hair dreadlocks?

I honestly don't know which is worse in terms of fashion disasters:
- Polyester 70's
- "Miami Vice" & penny loafers 80's
- Chino's 90's
- "Metro-sexual" 00's