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Alter Cup Qualifiers #156826
10/10/08 01:55 PM
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I thought it might be nice to see who plans to attend their local qualifier.

More importantly, if you've chosen not to attend, would you mind saying why?

For me, it's the only way I can get on the same race course with top notch competition!! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> The party ain't bad either.

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Re: Alter Cup Qualifiers [Re: fin.] #156827
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4 boats only at SHBCC 2 weeks ago for the area qualifier.

Re: Alter Cup Qualifiers [Re: Tiger] #156828
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I didn't go to mine because it conflicted with another event (Hobie 14/16 North Americans).

Ours is silly anyway, since the F17 has such a soft rating, it's almost impossible for another class to win. (F17 has won the Area E Alter Cup for as long as I can remember.) Even Matt Struble couldn't win it last year on an F18.

I should take my 14 to the next one. It's rating is even softer than the F17's. I'd finish 20 minutes behind and still beat them on corrected time. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Re: Alter Cup Qualifiers [Re: fin.] #156829
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where is the AC this year and have they released what boat it will be on yet?

Re: Alter Cup Qualifiers [Re: mbounds] #156830
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Ours is silly anyway, since the F17 has such a soft rating, it's almost impossible for another class to win. (F17 has won the Area E Alter Cup for as long as I can remember.) Even Matt Struble couldn't win it last year on an F18.

I should take my 14 to the next one. It's rating is even softer than the F17's. I'd finish 20 minutes behind and still beat them on corrected time. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


kinda the reason it doesnt make much sense to go to the area D qual too!
this year, at least

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Re: Alter Cup Qualifiers [Re: PTP] #156831
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I went to the Area L Event.

We had 17 boats, mostly A-cats and F18's. Very good racing!

Success was based on better location, better communication, and partnering with an established event to get the visibility. And lots of effort on the Area L Representative: Mike Hensel.

The club has been in contact with us post-event and asking if we can do this again next year!


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Re: Alter Cup Qualifiers [Re: PTP] #156832
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Please keep in mind, for the past several years Area D South has sent a minimum of two and in many cases 3 teams to the Alter Cup.

Just because a boat will be there with a soft rating is NOT a reason to skip a regatta.

It would take a lot for me to miss my area qualifier and I don't know if I mentioned it or not but I'm not really a fan of handicap racing.


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Re: Alter Cup Qualifiers [Re: David Ingram] #156833
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I wont be going, military deployement during that time AGAIN!

Re: Alter Cup Qualifiers [Re: Robi] #156834
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There were 10 boats at the Area D North qualifier. F16's placed 1-2.

Jakeypoo placed third on his remote control boat.

Re: Alter Cup Qualifiers [Re: ThunderMuffin] #156835
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Are the results available somewhere online ?


I found this tidbit on the Velocity sailing website

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We just had the Alter Cup Qualifier for Area D North, where Nigel and Tammy took 1st place. However, Nigel is the defending Alter Cup champion, so Olli and Joanna will get to go instead. Blade F16’s came in 1-2 again for the umpteenth time in a row. Kind of sick of that happening — but what are you going to do?


Nice !

Wouter

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Re: Alter Cup Qualifiers [Re: fin.] #156836
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I chose not to attend because it's a 9 hour drive each way, that adds two days to the regatta days for me, and my leash isn't that long. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> Florida is such a long state, I think it should be broken up into 2 separate areas all by itself, and then GA, SC, AL, NC be a different area. I went to last year's regatta because it was only 2 hours away. 9 hours each way is just too long and if I lived 3 hours further south, in Miami or the Keys, it would be 12 hours! What about those guys? That's a lot of driving for what is supposed to be an "area" qualifier. It's even in a different time zone!

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Re: Alter Cup Qualifiers [Re: Wouter] #156837
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You sure did go out of your way to find that tid bit didn't you. Wouter, it's a team blog expressing a pretty common frustration and I'm quite sure the blog entry was authored prior to knowing about the new number for the F16.

Don't you find it interesting that Nigel couldn't touch the F16 last year while sailing on an F18 and when he get's on an F16 he wins his area easily.

Don't you have better things to do like beat up on the F17's?

Re: Alter Cup Qualifiers [Re: Timbo] #156838
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To chop the the Area further would require other areas in the nation to be combined and I'm pretty sure that's not going to happen. To be honest we are fortunate to have the two areas, so count your blessings Timbo.

I move the area qualifier every year to allow as many people as possible in the different geographic locations the chance to sail in the area qualifier. Yes, we'll lose folks further south this year like yourself but, it will bring those in the north and west into the qualifier. This will mix things up a bit and keep as much interest as possible in the area qualifier.

The Area D South qualifier for 09' comes back to the peninsula and the Clearwater Sailing Center is hosting. In 10' we will go back to the panhandle, maybe Fort Walton.


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Re: Alter Cup Qualifiers [Re: PTP] #156839
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There hasn't been an official release yet but the deal is probably 99% done.

Jake, can you answer this one?


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Re: Alter Cup Qualifiers [Re: David Ingram] #156840
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Huh, who has been all over the topic of getting the F16 USPN lowered for ohhh 5 years now ?

I've always said the F16's were significantly faster then the old USPN rating.

Give me some credit here.

Wouter


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Re: Alter Cup Qualifiers [Re: Wouter] #156841
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Yes Wout, I did write that before the new F16 rating came out.

Thanks for the website plug <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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Yes I understood that.

One of the points I tried to express is that I'm fair across the board here. If I bitch about the nacra F17 rating (which I hardly do in fact) then it is not mean spirited as I have bitched alot harder about "my own" rating being to soft.

I think it is everybodies responsibility to ensure fair ratings, that most definately included the sailors and classes themselves. I'm very happy with the USPN lowering of the F16 rating. It was the only fair thing to do with respect to the F18 and F20 sailors. The last one out is the indeed the Nacra F17.

Best of luck to anyone.

Wouter

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Ohh, I came across your webpage when searching for the online results of this alter cup qualifier, does anyone still know a link to those ?

Wouter

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My wife and I are going the first week in November to Alameda for the area "G" qualifier. San Fran bay is a kick on a cat.


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Re: Alter Cup Qualifiers [Re: F-18 5150] #158304
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Originally Posted by hobie18rich
My wife and I are going the first week in November to Alameda for the area "G" qualifier. San Fran bay is a kick on a cat.


You won't even make it to Cape Town by then.


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