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Barnetat Bay Results #1571
08/13/01 07:10 AM
08/13/01 07:10 AM
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 3,116
Annapolis, MD
Mark Schneider Offline OP
Carpal Tunnel
Mark Schneider  Offline OP
Carpal Tunnel

Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 3,116
Annapolis, MD
Results from Barnegat will be posted on sailcrac.com shortly
<br>For the curious
<br>PRO Mark Santorelli
<br>Scorer Mark Schneider
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<br>Bayville, New Jersy
<br>Barnegat Bay Breezer
<br>Final Results
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<br>Pos Class Sail No Crew Club R1 R2 R3 R4 R5 R6 Pts
<br>Hobie 16 B Fleet (None)
<br>1st Hobie 16 102231 Dallas Carson & Brian Wilkes Washington, DC 2 1 1 3 1 1 6
<br>2nd Hobie 16 102988 Ron & Alicia Laporta Coatesvile, PA 1 2 2 1 3 DSQ 9
<br>3rd Hobie 16 90327 Carl & Catherine Behrens Cape May, NJ 3 4 3 5 5 2 17
<br>4th Hobie 16 100344 Dottie & Jim Graham Exton, PA 4 3 5 2 4 4 17
<br>5th Hobie 16 98813 Alec Hicks & Tramer Campiglia Avalon NJ 5 6 4 4 2 3 18
<br>6th Hobie 16 98606 Roy & Billy Conover West Windsor, NJ 6 5 DNS DNS DNC DNC 32
<br>Hobie 16 C Fleet (None)
<br>1st Hobie 16 74178 Robert Harley & Gary Friel Wayne, PA 2 1 DNC DNC DNS 1 10
<br>2nd Hobie 16 91756 Bob Shumiuski & Rob Christiansoen Chalfont, PA 1 DNF 1 DNC DNC DNC 11
<br>Hobie 16 A Fleet (None)
<br>1st Hobie 16 100294 Wally & Tyler Myers Marmora, NJ 7 1 6 1 2 1 11
<br>2nd Hobie 16 102966 Rich McVeigh & Deidre Mitchell Silver Spring, MD 4 3 1 4 3 6 15
<br>3rd Hobie 16 102992 Randy & Janet Payne Cape May,NJ 6 4 2 2 11 2 16
<br>4th Hobie 16 102967 Randy & Chris MaConnell Toms River, NJ 5 6 3 5 1 3 17
<br>5th Hobie 16 104545 Dan Kulkoski & Mb Villa Atlantic Highlands, NJ 8 2 5 6 5 5 23
<br>6th Hobie 16 102389 William & Sandra Jeffers Sodus, NY 1 7 4 7 6 7 25
<br>7th Hobie 16 104616 Bill and Joshua Kast Easton, PA 2 9 8 3 14 4 26
<br>8th Hobie 16 105000 Bob Merrik & Eliza Clevland Branford, CT 3 5 DNF 10 10 9 37
<br>9th Hobie 16 102445 Jamie Davidson & Kristin Shark Newark, DE 14 11 7 OCS 4 10 46
<br>10th Hobie 16 102677 Bruce & Beth Andrews Laudenberg, PA 13 8 9 14 7 12 49
<br>11th Hobie 16 104458 Lynn Myers & Kathy Kulkoski Marmora, NJ 12 15 13 8 8 11 52
<br>12th Hobie 16 104841 Olli & Kelly Jason Parsippany, NJ 11 13 11 12 17 8 55
<br>13th Hobie 16 104728 Bill and Gail Wiegers Red Bank, NJ 9 19 14 9 16 14 62
<br>14th Hobie 16 955 Mike Levesque & Michelle McLean Pawtucket, RI 17 12 10 OCS 9 15 63
<br>15th Hobie 16 102693 Chris & Pat Begrow Chalfont, PA 16 10 12 16 13 13 64
<br>16th Hobie 16 102608 Andy & Julie Corsig, Washington DC 10 14 15 11 DNC DNC 70
<br>17th Hobie 16 102278 Randy & Anita Landis Pottstown, PA 15 18 16 13 12 16 72
<br>18th Hobie 16 104488 Skeeter Renninger & Kaistar Woodie Lake Hopataong, NJ 18 17 17 15 15 17 81
<br>19th Hobie 16 92018 Greg Raybon, Eric and Matt Shrewsberry NJ 19 16 18 DNF DNC DNC 93
<br>Hobie 17 Fleet (None)
<br>1st Hobie 17 (1-Up) 5867 Jim Glanden Newark, DE 2 1 1 1 4 1 6
<br>2nd Hobie 17 (1-Up) 4100 Roger White Newtown, PA 1 6 4 4 2 3 14
<br>3rd Hobie 17 (1-Up) 5783 Ed Nolen Englewood, NJ 5 2 2 2 5 4 15
<br>4th Hobie 17 (1-Up) 5644 Don Raymond Atlantic Highlands, NJ 10 8 3 5 1 2 19
<br>5th Hobie 17 (1-Up) 5650 Gerard Blom Charlotsville, VA 6 5 5 3 6 6 25
<br>6th Hobie 17 (1-Up) 5815 John Czerwinski Doylestown, PA 3 3 7 6 DNC DNC 31
<br>7th Hobie 17 (1-Up) 5868 Kent Smith Doylestown PA 4 10 10 9 3 7 33
<br>8th Hobie 17 (1-Up) 5624 Gary Richards Hillsborough, NJ 7 4 9 11 7 9 36
<br>9th Hobie 17 (1-Up) 5639 Rob Wagner Moorestown, NJ 9 7 8 8 8 5 36
<br>10th Hobie 17 (1-Up) 6311 Tom Kimmel Mohnton, Pa 8 9 6 7 9 8 38
<br>11th Hobie 17 (1-Up) 5845 Jim Matthews Auebogue, Ny 11 11 11 10 DNC DNC 55
<br>Hobie 18 Fleet (None)
<br>1st Hobie 18 & 18 Magnum 16761 David Raughley & Cheryl Martin Townsend, DE 1 2 1 1 1 1 5
<br>2nd Hobie 18 & 18 Magnum 15826 Fred & Ellen Myer Blue Bell, PA 2 1 2 2 2 2 9
<br>3rd Hobie 18 & 18 Magnum 9363 Scott Miller, Sr & Scott Miller, Jr Doylestown, PA 3 3 3 DNS DNC DNC 17
<br>Hobie 20 Fleet (USPN)
<br>Open Fleet (USPN)
<br>1st Hobie Tiger w/spi ( 852 Bob O'Conner & Stephanie Magin Rochester, NY 1 3 1 OCS 7 1 13
<br>2nd Tornado (Intl.) Tsp 815 Greg and Caroline Scace Gaithersburg, MD 5 5 11 4 1 2 17
<br>3rd Inter 20 w/spi Yellow Ballons Bob Bergstedt & Joe Valente Bayville, NJ 7 2 OCS 1 5 4 19
<br>4th Dart 18 Sloop L3 3845 Mark Schneider Towson, Md 4 6 3 2 4 8 19
<br>5th Taipan 4.9 Sloop no 221 Jim & Lisa Boyer Golden Square Vic Australia 2 4 OCS 2 7 6 21
<br>6th Inter 20 w/spi 271 Chris and Jean Brown Lebanon, PA 6 7 2 OCS 3 5 23
<br>7th Inter 20 w/spi LOGOS Tom & Susan Korz Manlius NY 3 9 6 OCS 2 7 27
<br>8th Nacra 6.0 Spin 224 Garret Norton, Jen Cague Belmont MA 9 1 13 10 6 3 29
<br>9th Hobie 20 Miracle 720 George Kuney & Susan Bloomgarden Philiadelphia, PA 8 10 7 5 10 11 40
<br>10th Hobie 20 Miracle 371 Steve Myer & Corey Z Blue Bell, PA 10 12 5 6 11 12 44
<br>11th Hobie Tiger w/spi ( 527 Rob Jerry & Tom Sivak Manlius NY 11 8 4 DNF 12 10 45
<br>12th Hobie 20 Miracle 669 David Nees & Kerry Lenahan Fairfax , VA 12 15 8 7 13 14 54
<br>13th Inter 20 w/spi 236 Don Sievert &Deanna Handel Derwood, MD 13 14 12 OCS 9 9 57
<br>14th Hobie 20 Miracle 742 Chris Bolton & Randy Cartwright Lorton, VA 14 11 10 DNF 14 13 62
<br>15th Inter 17R Uni spi 30 109 Jim Doering Bayville, NJ DNC 13 9 8 DNC 15 63
<br>16th Prindle 19MX 86 Harry Murphy & Lenny Rozman Newtown Sq, PA 15 16 14 9 15 16 69
<br>17th Nacra 6.0 No.America 3744 Henry Underkall, Joseph Regan Medford, NJ 16 17 DNF DNC DNC DNC 87
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Re: Barnetat Bay Results [Re: Mark Schneider] #1572
08/13/01 09:12 AM
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In the open class results, the 1st and 5th (overall) place boats, both received 7th in the 5th race. 8th place also seems to be missing in the 5th race... Is this correct? I'm relatively new to open class racing, so I don't know what is done with the calculations/results behind the scenes.
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<br>Thanks for your time in doing the results... Thanks to all the other volunteers on the chase boats, committee, dinner, and the Bergstedt's for the use of their home. It was fun, well worth the 8hr drive.
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Re: Barnegat Bay Results [Re: Bob O] #1573
08/13/01 11:21 PM
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Mark Schneider Offline OP
Carpal Tunnel
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Carpal Tunnel

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Hi Bob
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<br>Thanks, I did not get much chance to socialize this weekend given the scoring duties. The answer to your question is the following: Yourself and Jim Boyer on the Taipan had identical corrected times for the race. The Sailwave program implements the ISAF rule and awards both of you 7th place points. There is no 8th place.
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<br>I will get the full printout of each race to Patrick tonight for the CRAC web page You will then be able to see the corrected times for each race in order. Several places were decided by seconds.
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<br>Congratualations on your strong performance. Obviously the spin launch and retrevial were not issues on your boat. Would you care to offer an opinion about the two systems. I am personally dreading training crew to bag launch and retrieve the chute on my Tsport for Gunpowder.
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<br>Take care. I can send you the sailwave file if you would like.
<br>Mark Schneider
<br>Fear the DART!!!<br><br>


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Mark, can you give me the elapsed times and a ... [Re: Mark Schneider] #1574
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Mark, can you give me the elapsed times and a short describtion of the conditions air and watersurface ?
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<br>Nicely lifted will be perfect but you can give me the raw data and I will sort it out myself.
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<br>It will much appreciated.
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<br>Wouter<br><br>

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The Netherlands
Re: Barnegat Bay Results [Re: Mark Schneider] #1575
08/14/01 11:37 AM
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Thanks Mark, and nice racing also, the Dart was a reality check.
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<br>I’m probably not the best person to provide an opinion about bag vs. snuffer as I’m biased. Many people try to “rib” me about my Tiger not having a snuffer. I simply respond, “I would never insult my crew with a snuffer”. :-)
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<br>I’m very lucky, as Stephanie and I have been sailing together for years. We’re still learning better ways of setting and dowsing. Compared to the snuffer, there is a steeper learning curve with the bag; the crew needs to have a “can do” attitude.
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<br>To get right to the point, we feel that the bag/poll takes more skill and teamwork than the snuffer. We think it’s best to put our time in learning and becoming proficient with the bag, and if we need to move to snuffer, it will be a walk in the park.
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<br>I think if you had equal (seasoned) teams, one with snuffer and the other with the bag, I think the difference in speed (up and down) would be small; however I think the bag has a higher risk for problems to occur.
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<br>At this point, I’m not ready and I don’t want to spend the money for snuffer, and were having a good time with the bag as every successful deploy and dowse is a minor victory.
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<br>Take care and thanks again,
<br>Bob O
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Barnegat Bay Full Results on SailCRAC.com [Re: Mark Schneider] #1576
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Barnegat Bay Full Results posted at SailCRAC.com
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<br>Barnegat Bay Results
<br><br><br>Patrick Ragen
<br>Nacra 5.5SL #310
<br>CRAC web maintainer
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Re: Barnegat Bay Results [Re: Mark Schneider] #1577
08/15/01 09:41 AM
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Bob,
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<br>I have been using Sailwave in New England for some local races and Division 12 Open class scoring.
<br>I stumbled on this from US Sailing last week:
<br> http://www.ussailing.org/racemgt/Changes_RRS/Appendix_A_Guidance.htm
<br>See section A7.
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<br>It says that US Sailing expects the ties to be awarded points based on Averaged points.
<br> (IE 2 boats tied for 7th place would get 7.5 points vs 7)
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<br>The sailwave default for ties comes up shared. It has not affected any of my results.
<br>but I did not have any real big fleets to deal with. I have changed my setting over to
<br>averaged.
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<br>Scott<br><br>

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Re: Barnegat Bay Results #1578
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Oops, I meant to reply to Mark, not Bob.
<br>Sorry
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<br>Scott<br><br>

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