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Re: Tradewinds [Re: Mike Hill] #165945
01/23/09 06:38 PM
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John M, nice job thanking all the volunteers!

As for constructive help, trapezoids are the way to go with mixed fleets. The more diverse the designed boat speeds, the more creative you need to be with placing finish lines, etc.

I have some examples of modified traps that have worked well in Newport, if anyone is interested let me know.

As John and Matt mentioned, these courses are super-resource-intensive. Three outstanding mark boats is a bare minimum for effective traps.

Mid-course S/F lines need to go the way of the dodo for all the reasons mentioned here (and others). Of course, if you're short on power boats, it's one good way to keep an eye on everyone (safety).

Mike

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Re: Tradewinds [Re: Mary] #165947
01/23/09 07:15 PM
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Get some more Sista's out there and you have an argument. Having said that, Mike Hills crew is the most impressive sailor I have witnessed, along with Gina, Cathy and Leah, I think that Chics Rock! I wish my wife was a sailor....


Eric Arbogast
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Re: Tradewinds [Re: arbo06] #165954
01/23/09 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by arbo06
Get some more Sista's out there and you have an argument. Having said that, Mike Hills crew is the most impressive sailor I have witnessed, along with Gina, Cathy and Leah, I think that Chics Rock! I wish my wife was a sailor....


Holly kicks A$$, and looks FINE doin' it.


"I said, now, I said ,pay attention boy!"

The cure for anything is salt water - sweat, tears, or the sea
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If a man is to be obsessed by something.... I suppose a boat is as good as anything... perhaps a bit better than most.
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Re: Tradewinds [Re: Team_Cat_Fever] #165956
01/23/09 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Team_Cat_Fever
Originally Posted by arbo06
Get some more Sista's out there and you have an argument. Having said that, Mike Hills crew is the most impressive sailor I have witnessed, along with Gina, Cathy and Leah, I think that Chics Rock! I wish my wife was a sailor....


Holly kicks A$$, and looks FINE doin' it.


Got some lungs too.


"WHY ARE WE PIIIINCHIIIING!!!!!!!!???????"

(sorry - I just came from a week of A-cat sailing). grin


Jake Kohl
Re: Tradewinds [Re: Jake] #165958
01/23/09 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Jake
(sorry - I just came from a week of A-cat sailing). grin


Yeah, Rub it in.


"I said, now, I said ,pay attention boy!"

The cure for anything is salt water - sweat, tears, or the sea
Isak Dinesen
If a man is to be obsessed by something.... I suppose a boat is as good as anything... perhaps a bit better than most.
E. B. White
Re: Tradewinds [Re: Team_Cat_Fever] #165960
01/24/09 12:06 AM
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I was trying to be subtle guys. seriously, there is no one that I have seen that makes a personal investment of this magnitude both on and off the water. Period. Candidate,Female sailor of the year. HOLLY IS THE REAL DEAL.


Eric Arbogast
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Re: Tradewinds [Re: John Williams] #166068
01/25/09 02:52 PM
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Key Largo, FL and Put-in-Bay, ...
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Happy to send the SIs with a course diagram your way if you'd like.


That would be great, John.
Thanks
Rick


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Re: Tradewinds [Re: RickWhite] #166079
01/25/09 04:00 PM
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John Williams

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Gary Player, pro golfer

After watching Lionel Messi play, I realize I need to sail harder.
Re: Tradewinds [Re: John Williams] #166124
01/26/09 08:30 AM
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Thanks, John
Rick


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Re: Tradewinds [Re: RickWhite] #166157
01/26/09 11:04 AM
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So what is the asking price for Rowell's? I saw it was vacant when we drove back on Sunday...

Could we set up an equity membership type thing?

Could we get permits for maybe 8 lodging units up front? Or a locker/shower facility? Maybe make a cheap yacht club out of it?

If we could store boats, there'd have to be a rule that if it isn't sailed every so often, we could sell it...


Jay

Re: Tradewinds [Re: waterbug_wpb] #166174
01/26/09 12:04 PM
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'If we could store boats, there'd have to be a rule that if it isn't sailed every so often, we could sell it...'

THAT, was funny


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#626- SOLD it!

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Re: Tradewinds [Re: Todd_Sails] #166178
01/26/09 12:12 PM
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Yes, but I think they do that at GYC... I think it's genious!


Jay

Re: Tradewinds [Re: waterbug_wpb] #166179
01/26/09 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by waterbug_wpb
Yes, but I think they do that at GYC... I think it's genious!


I think there will be more of that in the future. The new Comodore Lady wants more active sailors, lots more.

Re: Tradewinds [Re: fin.] #166182
01/26/09 12:20 PM
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"One weekend a month, two weeks a year" works for the national guard...

Maybe "one weekend a month" would work at GYC? They could either sail or volunteer (cleanup, PRO, cooking, etc)...


Jay

Re: Tradewinds [Re: waterbug_wpb] #166187
01/26/09 12:48 PM
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I think that is a problem at most clubs. People just park their boats there forever and never use them, and no dry storage space is available for new members who WANT to sail.

Re: Tradewinds [Re: Mary] #166190
01/26/09 12:51 PM
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Bingo!


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Re: Tradewinds [Re: Mary] #166195
01/26/09 01:31 PM
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Mary

Do you know of any YC's that do a good job of organizing just for fun sailing for the dinghy's and cats?

The sailing that involves racing gets organized by the racers. Often they recruit the non racers in the club to help out. The community is formed and sustains itself for years.

Junior sailing is an activity that people get involved in at a club that also builds a community but may leave their boat high and dry but it does sustain activity

The sailing that involves just sailing never seems to get organized by anyone and so the boats tend to sit and the club really becomes a marina.




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