Who has right of way in this situation:
(Not racing)

Boat M (Mystere 5.5) was Leeward boat, on a starboard tack, in the intra-coastal channel (actually perhaps just a little Leeward of the channel)

Boat N (Nacra 5.0) was windward, zips (cuts) in front of me, basically cutting me off and yells starboard... forcing me to put my boat in irons, and literally pop the jib, lift rudders and centerboards to back up (I couldn't jibe due to the shallows on the left) to avoid hitting him (he then hit the channel marker)

So you, the leeward boat, were close-hauled?

The Nacra to windward was reaching or running? And overtaking you at the same time?

yes and yes

I would also presume that if the Nacra collided with the channel marker, he or she isn't especially versant in the finer points of the rules of sailing?

I think the following boats have more "rights":
- Starboard tack
- leeward boat (if on same tack)
- boat being overtaken (regardless of tack or if under power)

Am I missing something?

I will say it was his first time on the boat... but he is a very experienced sailor and races every year.... where i am not a racer.. and can't say i am well versed in the rules... that is why i asked.

thanks

I don't understand. If he was on the same tack to windward, overtaking, but sailing a lower angle...how did he force you up into irons?

Did he sail around you, dip in front and under you, and then round you up?

You said you couldn't jibe...did you mean tack? If you were close hauled and run upward, you would be faced with a tack and not a jibe.

I think I need a drawwring.

I would have hollered "leeward boat", but that may only apply to racing...

As a matter of good seamanship, I would think an overtaking boat should allow the boat being overtaken room to maintain course & speed or give room to maneuver...

Wait now! Andrew, you were PORT. That's why I gently reminded you that I was starboard.

Wind was out of the NE, you were sailing E, I was sailing N. At a crossing, you lose and must back off EARLY. Tacking to avoid you would have (and did) put me into the channel marker.

The problem is that you are a Fockholepunkter!
(see Nacra 5.0 thread)

Jake,

I think Andrew might have been sailing close-hauled or close to it, and the other boat dove down on top of him, maybe on a broad reach?

Maybe Andrew threw the boat in irons to "duck" the overtaking boat at the last minute, or somehow stop his boat altogether to avoid collision?

Ah, well that explains a lot!

AH HA... he admits it!!!!

Yes, but i was leeward boat... we were both on a starboard tack

Not racing, so the colregs are what apply. Two sailing craft, one windward and one leeward.. I dont know if that situation is covered in the colregs anymore. Been a while since sailing ships were the norm Both are on starboard, so windward keeps clear of leeward.

Wrong, my friend. Replay the day in your tiny, peanut-like brain. The wind was out of the NNE and you were sailing east up the channel on port. I had just tacked at the south side of the narrow channel and was pinching north across the channel on starboard. You weren't paying attention, playing slap and tickle with your boy-toy crew. Sunday driving, you tried to cut me off and now change the story to protect the guilty. Oh, Andrew, you should be ashamed!

Sir, i agree with everything you say except i also don't agree that i am a "Fockholepunkter"

Perhaps my recollection was wrong... but i thought we were both on a starboard tack (as we were all leaving the beach, headed south to the bridge)... As i was about to tack away from the marker and you came in front of me and yelled "Fockholepunkter".

Are you saying you were south of me and coming up to the same point as me, and some how turned in front of me and then hit the marker???

I need a diagram... do you have a witness? Is there a police report?

ummmmm.... is that really called for? I think your guilty conscience is causing you to sling insults and display "sideways anger"

Get out your pencil.

The wind was out of the NNE and you were sailing east on port. I was pinching north on starboard. You recklessly continued on in front of me, I rounded up into irons to avoid that lumbering giant barge you call a boat. The current pushed my drifting, defenseless little beauty into the marker. You tried to bully me because I am old and was in your way. Me and my AARP buddies will remember that day.

I think Glen has a security camera at Sail Honeymoon...we'll watch the tape.

And as for your crew, when you have a cool boat you should be sailing with something good to look at, not a beach rummy. Ray, now he has the right idea.

And just so you all know, this is all in fun. Andrew and I are blessed with great "winter" weather and get to tell silly sailing stories, not complain about politics or argue over next season's race course shape.

Aren't you guys like, neighbours? Why in the WORLD are you not doing this at a bar with the accepted karate methods of illustration? Salt shaker = channel marker.

Right, John. It's all in fun and Andrew and I know it. We get to sail while the rest of the country sleds or whatever you do up there in the ice.

Funny, those aren't the terms you used to describe the boat when you sold it to me.


Also not how you describe it in the thread - Any Nacra 5.0 owners, Need some rigging questions (http://www.catsailor.com/forums/ubb...;Main=15635&Number=162320#Post162320 )

And I quote “You SHOULD be a big dog, sailing that fabulously detailed Mystere 5.5 with spinnaker. Remember, I sail a 29 year old Nacra 5.0 with the original Dacron pinhead main.”

Stick that in your Geritol you old fart! I can wait for the day when i can sail faster than you!

Because his wife doesn't let him out of the basement