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Re: Hotline cover [Re: Tom Korz] #166882
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GYC is actively seeking new members and I have it from the commodore that a Hobie Fleet within our club would be most welcome.

So, if you're an active sailor (Hobie or otherwise) come join us.


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Re: Hotline cover [Re: pgp] #166892
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GYC: that is Gulfport Yacht Club, right? If so, I am working on having a good sized event in your area in '10.

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Originally Posted by xanderwess
GYC: that is Gulfport Yacht Club, right? If so, I am working on having a good sized event in your area in '10.


Gulport, Florida. We're just south of St. Petersburg. The website seems to be down, shoot me a PM if you like.


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Re: Hotline cover [Re: pgp] #166894
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Ooops. Wrong Gulfport. We'll be in MS. Maybe the next year!

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laugh NP! Happens a lot! By all means, keep us in mind.

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So what is that event in MS your are talking about (spill the beans!!)?

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Caleb
I just wanted to give credit where credit is due: Our Youth Director, Gordo Bagely, is solely responsible for success of our groups particiapation in the Long Beach event. He did a great job and kept the kids safe and interested and deserves all the praise anyone can toss at him. The money we use for this type of thing is the direct result of membership and donations.
I am still trying to get my sister in law to take my nephew over to SandPoint for his dang sailing lessons!
Regarding the event is question: give me a little more time to get the details ironed out first then we'll talk out loud about it. It will be fun, I had no idea what a kick butt place the Biloxi MS area was until doing some research.

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Originally Posted by pgp
GYC is actively seeking new members and I have it from the commodore that a Hobie Fleet within our club would be most welcome.

So, if you're an active sailor (Hobie or otherwise) come join us.


Yes please, come take me out of my open class misery! wink


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Originally Posted by xanderwess
Caleb
I just wanted to give credit where credit is due: Our Youth Director, Gordo Bagely, is solely responsible for success of our groups particiapation in the Long Beach event. He did a great job and kept the kids safe and interested and deserves all the praise anyone can toss at him. The money we use for this type of thing is the direct result of membership and donations.


If you have contact info for Gordo can you message me? Andy and I are looking to build a competitve PNW youth team and mentor/coach/support for this coming year and the 2010 Youth Champs and I would like to hear what belives has worked or not worked in your area.

Thanks,

Paul Andrepont

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Re: Hotline cover [Re: arievd] #166903
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Originally Posted by arievd
Originally Posted by pgp
GYC is actively seeking new members and I have it from the commodore that a Hobie Fleet within our club would be most welcome.

So, if you're an active sailor (Hobie or otherwise) come join us.


Yes please, come take me out of my open class misery! wink


Didn't you hear? You're the new "Hobie Fleet Captain"!


Pete Pollard
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Re: Hotline cover [Re: pgp] #166909
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All Gordo's contact information is located towards the back of the Hotline. www.hobiecat.com/hobieclass
Do we need to send a little Hobie Captain's hat down to arvied?

Re: Hobie Membership Drive [Re: mbounds] #166912
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Originally Posted by mbounds
Originally Posted by Mark Schneider
How about highlighting one of the reasons a non racer would join the HCA.... You guys do a great job with lots of stuff. Say it loud and proud!

[Linked Image]

Howzzat?
(and no - that's not an old cover - it's a retro one I did for the 40th Anniversary Regatta)


Hey Matt... You are missing my point.. I have lots of guys on my club beach with old 16's and 18's in need of TLC who wouldn't go racing if it started off my beach 10 feet from their spot and that picture of a race start doesn't do it for them... They think the HCA membership and Hotline is all about racing.

What's in the magazine they the want to read about that would get them to join?


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Originally Posted by xanderwess
Hi
In response to the question about what the membership $$ do regarding the HCA, the first thing, is of course the Hotline. Incredible magazine with lots for everyone. Another plus of an HCA membership is the funding for youth activities. Now I know you hear this from everyone, but just 2 weeks ago,we spent in excess of $10,000 on sending 7 teams to Long Beach for the US Sailing youth multihulls. Travel, lodging and regatta. Awesome deal,and we're very fortunate to have the resources to do what we did and hope to do it again.
Another plus (and keep in mind, these are generalzations) but when we host a National event or large regatta, there is a signifcant economic impact on the area of choice. The local Economic Development group and the Chamber in Clear lake told us when we hosted 8 days of racing last summer, with the number of people there etc.....was north of $600,000 (based on a formula one of them was trying to explain to me) but that too, is significant.
As most of the one design classes out there, our money goes toward top notch racing, social events and organization. Membership gets you on our National Points Ranking list too. Our membership chair is doing a really good job getting things rolling for 09, and is raffling off some new Hobie Hiking harnesses with paid membership.
Hope that helps.
cw


Hi Chris,

It’s pretty clear from the PR and web site that dues support nationals… but here is the feedback that I get from a guy who gets to one regatta a year. "I see the value if I am a serious racer and attend nationals… It’s great but the most I plan to travel with my 16 is to the local regatta 20 miles down the road. Why should I give you money for a great party at the nationals, can’t they pay for their own party? Why do I need to give money for a strong national class for hot shot racers when all I want to do is sail once or twice a year. Heck, I would rather give my money to my old friends joe and jim who have put the local regatta forever…. We will get better beer then". Give me a reason to join! What is the connection between the national class and my local regatta that I don’t know is valuable to me?


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Re: Hobie Membership Drive [Re: mmadge] #166914
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Originally Posted by mmadge
Also allows us to put on a Guest Expert Programs, where the event organizers bring in a Hobie rock star for the weekend to put on a sailiing clinic.Like the one that will be at the Division 7 divisionals this year in Spicier Mn.Wally Myers will be brought in (courtesy of HCA)for the Bald Eagle Regatta July 11-12.Contact me at themadges@shaw.ca for more details.


Hi Mmadge.

You are missing my point. Most of the regional sailors will do 3 or 4 events a year. They don’t do clinics. They like the idea of a regional championship coming around every so often… they don’t plan on going to nationals but a big event with a big party is cool. But this guest expert thing. Hmm... So..
This guest expert program that you talk about… What is it? I have never had any coaching for sailing. What is a clinic all about? I read those articles by Stuart Walker and my head hurts… I have no idea what he is talking about is that what the clinic is about. I have heard about the two boat tuning that the Olympic sailors do and the magazines talk about … Is that what a clinic is. Is there a right way to tack this boat… Since, I am a C and B fleet sailor…. Won’t I just drag your clinic down…. You don’t really want me to come to this event do you? My neighbor’s kid is sailing in Opti Green Fleet and he was going on and on about the Tommy Coleman clinic his club just had for a day for his kid. Is that what I should expect? I know the club paid Coleman a good bit of money to put on the Opti clinic... Is that what my dues are paying for?


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Re: Hobie Membership Drive [Re: brucat] #166915
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Originally Posted by brucat
I could almost go along with that if he didn't drag in the negativity associated with the other groups. There was nothing in our promotional announcement about forcing anyone to do anything, demanding money, or anything else.

Mike


Mike
Your response is petty and ignorant, not once but several times! What the hell is your problem?

Why would anyone care about what HCA does?. …. When you are the entry class for new racers into the sport… What you do matters to the long term growth of the sport.

You write
“I could almost go along with that if he didn't drag in the negativity associated with the other groups. There was nothing in our promotional announcement about forcing anyone to do anything, demanding money, or anything else.

Mike”

Dude! look down…. the shoe fits…

Your Hobie Class association has decided to enforce MANDATORY MEMBERSHIP in the HCA for a weekend points regattas that are not run by the HCA. If a new sailor shows up on the beach to try a regatta… You are ordering your partner organization to collect your dues plus regatta fees or send him home. (This is a recent change)

The least you can do when you require membership to race at a standard regatta is make the policy clear before the event and explain the benefits the class membership offers and why they should matter to the individual sailor.


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Re: Hotline cover [Re: ] #166933
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Originally Posted by xanderwess

Do we need to send a little Hobie Captain's hat down to arvied?


Don't care about a hat (little or otherwise)...I'd settle for a few H16s to sail against! crazy

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Re: Hobie Membership Drive [Re: Mark Schneider] #166938
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What's in the magazine they the want to read about that would get them to join?
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Hey, Mark, plenty of racing and non racing info in the "Hot Line" Read it and see, available FREE online.
Caleb

Re: Hobie Membership Drive [Re: brucat] #166939
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Hi Mike. We are out of town, but just renewed our Family Membership for 2009. The online system worked just fine, and even sent Email confirmation. Hobie Cat Association Membership is still a bargain compared to the other groups we pay dues to.

And as the other sailors sign up or renew, please consider giving a few bucks to the Youth Program. As noted, it goes to a good cause.

Caleb, Tom and Dan
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I understand what you're saying and I need to either figure it out or come up with something new. I am not a serious sailor by any means too, so I get what you're saying. We'll work on this issue and see how we can accomodate the masses.
BTW- isn't it you that is doing some youth stuff at AYC? Anything we can do to help?

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Not yet!

Jay was swamped last week and postponed my meeting. We are scheduled for Tuesday. He is a pro and I am pretty sure we will work out a really good first step. My goal is something like the CISA program that the west coast enjoys and I think Jay will support that level of activity. They are already tapped as one of the Opti elite program centers. My reading of the tea leaves is that these centers of training are the future. They want to draw the top juniors in for training camps that provide competition leading to international success.

I have a couple of local sources for funding that I will try to make this fly. I would like to make sure the people who volunteer a charter boat are covered and the expenses of the national coaches are covered. I have gotten support for anyone I have asked so far so I think it's promising. Div 11 16 sailors are completely on board so that was a key step.

I will certainly let the world know what's needed.

Mark


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