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Wooden A's...do they really exist? #167252
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(let's see how long it takes to get this post pushed off the front page laugh )

So looking at the history here, the 200# A Class became a dinosaur on April 1, 1998?

I know older (but post '98) exist on the used market and are great for entry level to the class, but since the A Class is non-existent in our area, I (for one) would be interested in a 200# boat to rec sail.

I don't think there really are any left, I think it's all here-say. What did you guys do? Have a huge bonfire and burn all the old boats?

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Re: Wooden A's...do they really exist? [Re: _flatlander_] #167256
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They exist in Hopatcong NJ, where it all began.

Re: Wooden A's...do they really exist? [Re: bvining] #167271
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Bill,

Thanks for the lead, just sent an email to the fleet captain of 137...Woody Woodie. grin


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Re: Wooden A's...do they really exist? [Re: _flatlander_] #167272
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We've got one of the last catnips sailing on Lake Murray - Columbia, SC

Re: Wooden A's...do they really exist? [Re: mikekrantz] #167274
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keep it coming, I'm learning

from the '07 Hoptacong event
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Unfortunately we had several causalities right of the bat with two major collisions occurring and sending three boats back to ramp. The 30 year old CatNip had its starboard bow ripped off at the start, amazing enough the helmsmen was able to sail the boat back to the club by keeping the damaged hull out of the water on the starboard tack, and keeping it from sinking.


Is Cal Fuller aka Woody Woodie?


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Re: Wooden A's...do they really exist? [Re: _flatlander_] #167277
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Key Largo, FL and Put-in-Bay, ...
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I remember when we used to have huge turnouts (200+ boats) at Miami YC. I was sailing Sharks and Tornados then, but there were a number of A-Cats there. Most home built and Australian designs.., can't remember the design name for the life of me.
It was pretty reponsive though, as I recall.
Rick


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Re: Wooden A's...do they really exist? [Re: _flatlander_] #167278
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The Lake Murray boat is a Cal Fuller, also recognized as an "A2", for its rating purposes. Nice clean boat with new paint and some new carbon rudders.


The men were amazed, and said, "What kind of a man is this, that even the winds and the sea obey Him?" Matthew 8:27





Re: Wooden A's...do they really exist? [Re: dave mosley] #167290
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Hi Guys- There are a couple of woodies still in Southern Ontario, there are even a few old Unicorns if you know where to look.

Fred

Re: Wooden A's...do they really exist? [Re: fredsmith] #167299
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Even though they can't keep up with a new one they're still great fun to race


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Re: Wooden A's...do they really exist? [Re: JeffS] #167345
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My thumbnail pictured here is Cal Fuller Catnip #21, built about 1971, NA Champion 1972, 1972, 1975. Got about 6 people got turned onto A-cats with this great little boat when I got her all busted & fixed in 1980-1981, weight 200.5 pounds. This pic shows her flying 2 hulls on my hydrofoils. see www.fastsail.com/catcobbler

With a very old chute, she finished 6th in the 2008 Mug Race last May (a 40 mile pursuit race) after catching 200 boats, got passed by 1 RC30, 2 RC27s, 1 Marstrom 20 and 1 A-cat with chute.


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Re: Wooden A's...do they really exist? [Re: dacarls] #167352
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Carbon hull + wooden veneer all done in the mould, built by the man on the wire, Andy Scheurer. There are only two like it and they are beautiful.

regards

Daniel
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Re: Wooden A's...do they really exist? [Re: _flatlander_] #167956
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Yep, I have one, It's Gorgeous, 1981 Cal Fuller ACAT, Tapered Aluminum Mast, New Vectorworks CF Rudders last Spring, Just got hulls restored last fall, Gorgeous.
I can keep up with Dave's Marstrom A, I just can't accellerate as fast as him in the puffs and shifts, he gradually leaves me farther behind just with this.I'll post some pictures of it after the hull restore from home when I dig them up later.
CARY
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Re: Wooden A's...do they really exist? [Re: mikekrantz] #167959
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Mike:
Actually I think mine is THE last boat Cal Fuller Built.
#29
CARY

Re: Wooden A's...do they really exist? [Re: Cary Palmer] #167971
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Hey Cary, how are you doing. Is yours the one that Jody had?

On a side note I was lucky enough to be at the Lake Hopotcong (?) A Cat regatta a couple of years ago when Cal and his lovely wife had dinner with us. Cal gave a talk that I wouldn't have missed for anything. Two of the nicest folks around. The NJ Fleet did a great job of hosting all of the sailors that came. I don't think anyone stayed in a hotel. Fred, weren't you there that year? Ed

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Still hazey after all these beers.
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Re: Wooden A's...do they really exist? [Re: LuckyDuck] #168025
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Special ED!!
Yea, Was Jody's originally, then I bought it from Kirt Simmons after Jody lost it in a poker game . . .
(That's my story and I'm sticking to it, Disregard any truth Jody might try to confuse my facts with)
I chased that boat for two years trying to find it, duked it out with Krantz when it was up on EBAY, we both lost, made a deal with the owner(who I didn't know was really Jody) then lost his e-mail before we closed the details.Lost track of the whole thing and bought my Mono instead. It finally came back into my life by accident talking to Jody on the Beach at CSC as we put the whole thing together.
Added a CF Boom, CF Bim Rudders, did some very minor hull repair, then refinished them, and of course some very cool Seacats Hull Graphics by Kirt Metts. (He's exceptionally cheap if anyone is interested)
I'm still working on the Rotator system, everthing else had been redone by Jody or Kirt, before I got it.
New Tramp and Sail later this year, Gonna Keep her sweet for the duration.

Re: Wooden A's...do they really exist? [Re: Cary Palmer] #168060
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Great story Cary. I guess good karma goes a long way and the boat ended up finding you. Maybe I can get down there and bum a ride on it. Ed


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Re: Wooden A's...do they really exist? [Re: Cary Palmer] #168082
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So where are the pics then?? grin

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Is this the one?

Hand Crafted Classic

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I know that the voices in my head aint real,
but they have some pretty good ideas.
There is no such thing as a quick fix and I've never had free lunch!

Re: Wooden A's...do they really exist? [Re: phill] #168147
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Cary will have to chime in, but I have seen those pix before, and I think that is Cary's boat. It looks much different today.


The men were amazed, and said, "What kind of a man is this, that even the winds and the sea obey Him?" Matthew 8:27





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Originally Posted by phill
Is this the one?

Hand Crafted Classic
Captain Kirt's signature still includes
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"A" cat US 48
BTW, Maumelle is a beautiful lake, and challenging to race on.


John H16, H14
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