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18 Square for newbie #171107
03/10/09 11:54 AM
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Howdy, new to the site and somewhat new to sailing smile

I plan to purchase a cat next summer, as the wife and I are saving for a house this year. I am however going to be doing some crewing this summer on an H16 and possibly an F18.

Spent last Saturday down at the LNYC with one of their members getting in some seat time on the H16, we are going to be racing the PeeDee event in a few weeks.

The 18sq caught my eye, I like the idea of a uni-rig since most of my sailing will be solo, and I like the wide beam for stability. I am 200lbs, so I would imagine righting would be no problem...

How is the boat two up, just for cruising? They seem pretty rare, but I think through the good folks at the LNYC I should be able to find one when the time comes. Would it be too much to handle for a relative newbie with only 1 year of crewing experiance on cats?

My only other sailing experiance was crewing on a Morgan 38 back in MI.

Any insight would be great, thanks!!


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Re: 18 Square for newbie [Re: Storz] #171110
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IMHO - The 18sq is a very big, heavy and powerful boat.
Putting aside the skills needed to sail it...

It would be a challenge to rig solo, it is so wide you must have a tilt trailer to move it.. and i would probably not recommend it as a first boat.

There are other boats that would probably fit you better.. do searches on this site as this topic has been discussed many many times...

Re: 18 Square for newbie [Re: Storz] #171113
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Hang out for awhile, crew when you can. Hop a ride on the RC boat. Cats are a lot different than leaners ( blush I mean monohulls). One of the best places to observe that difference is on the committee boat.


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Re: 18 Square for newbie [Re: Storz] #171118
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There are a lot of options - the 18square is a pretty powered up single handed boat but probably not too much for a first boat...however, I would hope to see you around at our local regattas on a regular basis and transporting the 18sq is a little more difficult than some other boats. We should have a pretty fair representation of several different boats at Pee Dee - I'll be there and will be glad to go over them with you.


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Originally Posted by Jake
We should have a pretty fair representation of several different boats at Pee Dee - I'll be there and will be glad to go over them with you.


Sounds good, I'll be down at Pee Dee crewing with Scott Smith on his H16, and at the Tommy Whiteside crewing with Bill Croughwell on his H16 again, possibly an F18. I am heading out this weekend with Bill and we may give the F18 a try...


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Just look for Jake.. he will be wearing a cape and rubber gloves (just like his avitar)

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If you wish to learn about a 18sq'd you need to talk to Miss Tami ... she has one.

And she knows how to make great GUMBO also ....

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Originally Posted by andrewscott
Just look for Jake.. he will be wearing a cape and rubber gloves (just like his avitar)


Don't forget he'll have his tube of KY with him too.


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Re: 18 Square for newbie [Re: F-18 5150] #171185
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haha awesome, I'll make sure to introduce myself.


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What a coincidence. One of the best 18sq's at LNYC just went up for sale, and the seller lives in Cary. If you ask nicely he would probably take you out for a spin on it.

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Originally Posted by dbncsu
What a coincidence. One of the best 18sq's at LNYC just went up for sale, and the seller lives in Cary. If you ask nicely he would probably take you out for a spin on it.


Ha no kidding!

Unfortunatly I am really not ready to buy one (promised the wife a house would come first) but I would love to check it out sometime.


Ryan
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Originally Posted by Storz
Unfortunatly I am really not ready to buy one (promised the wife a house would come first) but I would love to check it out sometime.


Your priorities are WAY out of ORDER! (just kidding, kind of) smile

BUT... the boat will cost less than 1/300th of the house... you can get a cheap cat and learn to sail why you are depriving yourself of other pleasures to save for your house!

I would be happy to talk with your wife (while you sneak away and buy a cat) smile

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Originally Posted by hobie18rich
Don't forget he'll have his tube of KY with him too.


Is that for his "Track Balls"??? or other, Nevermind... don't answer that

Re: 18 Square for newbie [Re: ] #171252
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Originally Posted by andrewscott
Originally Posted by Storz
Unfortunatly I am really not ready to buy one (promised the wife a house would come first) but I would love to check it out sometime.


Your priorities are WAY out of ORDER! (just kidding, kind of) smile

BUT... the boat will cost less than 1/300th of the house... you can get a cheap cat and learn to sail why you are depriving yourself of other pleasures to save for your house!

I would be happy to talk with your wife (while you sneak away and buy a cat) smile


Sounds like a plan cool

I realize that the cat is pretty small change in the big picture, but thats the deal I've made with her so I gotta stick to it, that and I really would not have anywhere to keep a boat at my apartment. Going to crew as much as possible this year, and pick up a boat next winter/spring smile


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Combining two threads, this might make a good bumper sticker: You can sleep on your boat, but you can't sail your house.

Hmm?


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Re: 18 Square for newbie [Re: pgp] #171255
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Originally Posted by pgp
Combining two threads, this might make a good bumper sticker: You can sleep on your boat, but you can't sail your house.

Hmm?


Haha, goodone

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So buy one of those $1 detroit houses and then get the sq.
Problem solved.


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Re: 18 Square for newbie [Re: F-18 5150] #171266
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Originally Posted by hobie18rich
So buy one of those $1 detroit houses and then get the sq.
Problem solved.


Brilliant!! I am orginally from MI as well, have friends that sail out of the BYC so that would be perfect...



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Re: 18 Square for newbie [Re: Storz] #171407
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Would the Nacra 5.5uni be a better choice? Hopefully I'll get a chance to see them both at PeeDee


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a 5.5 would definitely be a smoother transition.


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