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#172273 03/19/09 08:11 AM 03/19/09 08:11 AM | andrewscott
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Get a helper....(it is possible solo, but easier with help) lay the sail out as flat as you can. start at the foot... and fold in 2.5' - 3' sections on top of each other (accordion style) till you get in to the head of the sail.
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#172283 03/19/09 08:46 AM 03/19/09 08:46 AM |
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Posts: 5,525 | Mine came flaked in a nice bag. Of course I didn't bother to take notes when first ripping into it! I've tried several different approaches, none fit the original, which I assume is the best way.
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#172308 03/19/09 12:09 PM 03/19/09 12:09 PM | andrewscott
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Unregistered | I can only guess that if its flaked well (and tight) there are less "bends" in the fabric, and leads to less wear (and less creases) over the life of the spin.. but that is just a guess... | | | Re: flaking the spinnaker
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#172311 03/19/09 12:35 PM 03/19/09 12:35 PM |
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Posts: 712 | Take 3 sheets of paper. Wad one up in a ball. Fold one up, just like you would flake a spin. Leave one sheet alone. Now smooth the ball out and lay it on the unfolded paper. Now smooth the flaked paper out on the unfolded paper. Which piece smooths out closest to it's original size... Do this 100 times, which piece falls apart first...
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#172316 03/19/09 12:48 PM 03/19/09 12:48 PM |
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Posts: 9,582 North-West Europe | I snuff my spi into a bundle about 10 times a racing day; why would not doing it once more at the end of the day into a very roomy bag make any difference ?
Typically, it goes into its bag as it sat in the snuffer. I use a small replacer line for the retrieval line and tie the corners together. This also allows me to hook it back on the boat much faster.
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#172317 03/19/09 01:02 PM 03/19/09 01:02 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA David Ingram
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Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA | This subject really isn't debate worthy. Either you think flaking has value or you don't. At the end of day it's your spin, time and checkbook.
David Ingram F18 USA 242 http://www.solarwind.solar"Do or do not. There is no try." - Yoda "Excuses are the tools of the weak and incompetent" - Two sista's I overheard in the hall "You don't have to be a brain surgeon to be a complete idiot, but it helps"
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#172324 03/19/09 01:37 PM 03/19/09 01:37 PM |
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | This subject really isn't debate worthy. Either you think flaking has value or you don't. At the end of day it's your spin, time and checkbook. Is this you trying to stop a debate?
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#172326 03/19/09 01:40 PM 03/19/09 01:40 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA David Ingram
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Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA | Do we really need another Dill Baby Drill thread?
David Ingram F18 USA 242 http://www.solarwind.solar"Do or do not. There is no try." - Yoda "Excuses are the tools of the weak and incompetent" - Two sista's I overheard in the hall "You don't have to be a brain surgeon to be a complete idiot, but it helps"
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#172327 03/19/09 01:45 PM 03/19/09 01:45 PM |
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Posts: 2,844 42.904444 N; 88.008586 W | Well, FWIW, mine was always stored in the homebrew snuffer I had made for the low bow foil on a Nacra 6.0na.
When rigged, the end of the pole had a spectra line to each hull tip, which ended in a hole drilled thru the front of the bow.
I would undo one side of this bridle, so the whole pole with snuffer attached would get past the upright mast support on the front on the trailer near the tongue.
So my spin was stored, in the snuffer, with all lines except the halyard attached. Which made for some great rigging and breaking down times!
It wasn't stuffed in, and it really wasn't folded either. It was out of the sunlight as my snuffer was a black plastic tube.
It was so nice just to attach the halyard to the head, and that's all there was to rigging the spin!
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#172328 03/19/09 01:45 PM 03/19/09 01:45 PM | andrewscott
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#172335 03/19/09 02:29 PM 03/19/09 02:29 PM |
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Posts: 3,528 Looking for a Job, I got credi... | Take 3 sheets of paper. Wad one up in a ball. Fold one up, just like you would flake a spin. Leave one sheet alone. Now smooth the ball out and lay it on the unfolded paper. Now smooth the flaked paper out on the unfolded paper. Which piece smooths out closest to it's original size... Do this 100 times, which piece falls apart first... I was told this example, but it went further than that... Hold the 4 corners of the paper (you'll need a mate to help) and then drop a heavy ballbearing into the middle. Does the crumpled one tear? Nope; does the folded one? Yes IF you fold in the same place, you make certain points very weak because they are folded in the same (or similar) place many times. Stuffing it in the bag creates more folds, but they are smaller and more distributed and so the weakness is more spreadout.
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#172345 03/19/09 03:11 PM 03/19/09 03:11 PM |
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Posts: 271 Atlanta, Ga | Take 3 sheets of paper. Wad one up in a ball. Fold one up, just like you would flake a spin. Leave one sheet alone. Now smooth the ball out and lay it on the unfolded paper. Now smooth the flaked paper out on the unfolded paper. Which piece smooths out closest to it's original size... Do this 100 times, which piece falls apart first... I was told this example, but it went further than that... Hold the 4 corners of the paper (you'll need a mate to help) and then drop a heavy ballbearing into the middle. Does the crumpled one tear? Nope; does the folded one? Yes IF you fold in the same place, you make certain points very weak because they are folded in the same (or similar) place many times. Stuffing it in the bag creates more folds, but they are smaller and more distributed and so the weakness is more spreadout. Unless you have a problem with things flying into the middle of your spin I'm not sure how this is relevant. I think the point is to make a simple effort to keep the spin as crisp as possible. | | | Re: flaking the spinnaker
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#172353 03/19/09 04:01 PM 03/19/09 04:01 PM |
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Posts: 3,528 Looking for a Job, I got credi... | Take 3 sheets of paper. Wad one up in a ball. Fold one up, just like you would flake a spin. Leave one sheet alone. Now smooth the ball out and lay it on the unfolded paper. Now smooth the flaked paper out on the unfolded paper. Which piece smooths out closest to it's original size... Do this 100 times, which piece falls apart first... I was told this example, but it went further than that... Hold the 4 corners of the paper (you'll need a mate to help) and then drop a heavy ballbearing into the middle. Does the crumpled one tear? Nope; does the folded one? Yes IF you fold in the same place, you make certain points very weak because they are folded in the same (or similar) place many times. Stuffing it in the bag creates more folds, but they are smaller and more distributed and so the weakness is more spreadout. Unless you have a problem with things flying into the middle of your spin I'm not sure how this is relevant. I think the point is to make a simple effort to keep the spin as crisp as possible. The point is that flaking the sail makes less areas that are damaged/weak. But the areas that are damaged/wear are more damaged and so failure change is greater.
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#172358 03/19/09 04:12 PM 03/19/09 04:12 PM | andrewscott
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Unregistered | Hey Anyone need to buy a Spin. I know someone who makes a nice one at a good price. From the sound of this thread alot of people need one. Apparently thats me! How much? what is it made from? Brand new? details, pics, etc  (PS i fly a Tornado sized spin) | | |
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