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Re: F18 Worlds - a statement of multihull strength [Re: brucat] #173085
03/27/09 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by brucat


Personally, I see F18 and A-class as one-design for fleet racing. I know, that's not the correct definition, but if you're racing boat-for-boat without handicapping, that's close enough for me.



AMEN!

Originally Posted by brucat


BUT, that's not to say I agree that Hobie class regattas should be open to non-Hobie F18s. That has more to do with the support and purpose of the HCA and HCC.



I never really understood that, but it's your game so more power to you.


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Re: F18 Worlds - a statement of multihull strength [Re: brucat] #173089
03/27/09 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by brucat


BUT, that's not to say I agree that Hobie class regattas should be open to non-Hobie F18s. That has more to do with the support and purpose of the HCA and HCC.

Mike


I am forced to giggle about all these hobie only regattas and the americans disscusing how the wildcat and tiger can race together, but thats cause im used to bigger catamaran opens where any one any boat can compete .

Re: F18 Worlds - a statement of multihull strength [Re: David Ingram] #173090
03/27/09 03:36 PM
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"I never really understood that, but it's your game so more power to you."

What's so hard to understand? This couldn't be any simpler.

For HCA, go to hca-na.org, look up the bylaws. You'll see this:

"Section 1. Purpose: The purpose of the Hobie Class Association of North America is to establish and promote Hobie Cat sailing and racing in its geographic boundaries in collaboration with the National and International sailing authorities."

There's nothing in there that says we should (one could argue, may) use our resources to promote non-Hobie classes.

Obviously, the HCC is in business to build Hobies, so there's nothing to think about there. They provide a ridiculous amount of support to the HCA, and direct support to many of our events.

EDIT: As for the Wildcat/Tiger issue, as long as the events are Hobie-only, I think we're OK (based on the above). How the boats are scored is a different question. I don't see anything in the bylaws that says we can't use handicap scoring for Hobies, or some other arrangement that makes sense. Allowing handicap scoring for Hobies is NOT the same as opening the event to any manufacturer that shows up.

Mike

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Re: F18 Worlds - a statement of multihull strength [Re: brucat] #173091
03/27/09 03:46 PM
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This has been debated to death and I already regret creating the post. Have a good weekend.


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