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Re: Tiller Grip. [Re: NacraKid] #173984
04/06/09 11:28 AM
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Clinton, Mississippi
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I use the string, but, curses man, no tape! Try a tasty french whip instead!

http://www.marinews.com/French-Whipping-532.php


Jerome Vaughan
Hobie 16
Clinton, Mississippi
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Re: Tiller Grip. [Re: rattlenhum] #173985
04/06/09 11:34 AM
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Long Beach, California
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I'm scared to click on that link... is it SFW? Or is it as BDSM as it sounds?
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John Williams

- The harder you practice, the luckier you get -
Gary Player, pro golfer

After watching Lionel Messi play, I realize I need to sail harder.
Re: Tiller Grip. [Re: John Williams] #173986
04/06/09 11:36 AM
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laugh Rolling half-hitches. I tried it a long time ago, but always pulled it off the end of the tiller.


Pete Pollard
Blade 702

'When you have a lot of things to do, it's best to get your nap out of the way first.

Re: Tiller Grip. [Re: NacraKid] #173992
04/06/09 12:16 PM
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Seabrook, TX
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What I did on my old H-16 stick back it the 80's worked real well. NOW it took at while to do it though. I used some braided white twine and did loops over the stick. It made a slow spiral around the stick. It was real easy to hold and lasted till I sold the boat. I KNOW it is old school, but it worked.

Doug

Re: Tiller Grip. [Re: DougSnell] #173997
04/06/09 01:49 PM
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Bloomington, IN
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Whatever you do, if you do some type of spiral string wrap, DON'T epoxy the string. It makes a very effective rasp that will carve into gel coat with ease. Don't ask me how I know.


Jeff
Tiger 849
Re: Tiller Grip. [Re: DougSnell] #174004
04/06/09 02:35 PM
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South Carolina
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Originally Posted by DougSnell
What I did on my old H-16 stick back it the 80's worked real well. NOW it took at while to do it though. I used some braided white twine and did loops over the stick. It made a slow spiral around the stick. It was real easy to hold and lasted till I sold the boat. I KNOW it is old school, but it worked.

Doug


So in other words, rolling half-hitches.


Jake Kohl
Re: Tiller Grip. [Re: NacraKid] #174123
04/07/09 11:58 AM
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Tampa, Fl
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I have used everything from a shovel handle to PVC to get out on the water. My favorite is the extendable fiberglass that twist down. They are a little fatter and never corroded and as mentioned before, there should be little effort to steer unless a released rudder has happened. Plus they are electrically isolating. A subject us Florida sailors never tire of discussing.

Good gloves go a long way by themselves especially when wet.


Deepsees
Re: Tiller Grip. [Re: deepsees] #174454
04/10/09 03:48 PM
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Bingo got to love the insulation from the FL squalls


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G-Cat 5.7 - Current Boat
NACRA 5.2 - early 70's

Re: Tiller Grip. [Re: NacraKid] #174468
04/10/09 09:01 PM
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South Texas
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What I ended up doing was using a piece of foam pipe insulation around the tiller and overwraping it with rigging tape. Now have a nice soft grip which does not slip. Also took the advise & messed with the rudder & mast rake. Got to try these adjustments this evening during our Friday night club races. Grip is much better & boat seemed a lot easier to helm. My little 5.2 was able to beat three F-31s,(not by much,but a win is still a win.) We use a staggered start time system. Thanks to all.


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Re: Tiller Grip. [Re: NacraKid] #174480
04/11/09 08:47 AM
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Tampa, Fl
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I have used everything from shovel handles to PVC to get out on the water. I find two things that help me grip smooth surfaces, good gloves and diameter of shaft.

There is a fiberglass twist lock adjustable that is designed to use as a paint roller extension. The push button roller extensions are trash. The twist lock is a little thicker than most tillers and gloves grab it well. Plus it will not corrode and is non conducting.... something Florida sailors are always concerned about.

As was mentioned before, if the rudders and mast rake are set correctly, it is almost like power steering. Unless a rudder pops up and becomes a lever, there should be easy grip enough to hold it in your teeth for the most part.

It is the fine point of weather helm seeking to turn you up wind or raked where the cat will leave you stranded and sail on if you fall off. Since I do not race, getting worried about advantages of weather helmed set ups vs ease of operation tends to lead to the more comfortable choice.






Deepsees
Re: Tiller Grip. [Re: deepsees] #174486
04/11/09 10:41 AM
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Westport, Ma. U.S.A.
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Tequila cork. They are free at most bars, keep the tiller from sliding out of your hand.

Re: Tiller Grip. [Re: deepsees] #174489
04/11/09 11:31 AM
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Seabrook, TX
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Originally Posted by deepsees

As was mentioned before, if the rudders and mast rake are set correctly, it is almost like power steering. Unless a rudder pops up and becomes a lever, there should be easy grip enough to hold it in your teeth for the most part.



MY old Hobie 16 was so tweaked I could hold it with 2 fingers. Was REAL nice back in the days of ACABCAC course 7 days LOL

Doug

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