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RTI #183317
06/27/09 07:49 PM
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RTI - is on.. 100 mile race. CAB is mixing it up with the lead boats..closlyy followed by Andy, Oley and Jody...


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Re: RTI [Re: tshan] #183333
06/28/09 07:23 AM
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is this the first time the F16s have really done an "ocean" type of race?

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06/28/09 10:33 AM
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How do we qualify Round Texel and another distance race on the north sea that is called the NAM-REM race ?

Wouter


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Re: RTI [Re: Wouter] #183365
06/28/09 04:47 PM
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north sea ain't crap compared to the gulf of mexico with 80 deg water and 10kn winds and 90deg temp.
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06/28/09 05:36 PM
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OK, so who's going to be the first to sail an F16 to Mexico?! Let's get a flotilla together and a support boat with food and water and have at it!

Hey, I was watching the Tampa news last night, there are two guys from Tampa who are going to attempt to cross the Atlantic on something that looked like a bass boat!

Looked like about a 20' bass boat, flat deck, no type of shelter at all, an outboard motor, etc. They said they are going after the record! (for what, stupidity?)

So where are they getting the fuel from? I don't think a 20' foot bass boat could cary enough 50 gallon drums to make it! They are projecting a 48 day crossing. Stay tuned. Robi, you ready for another Search and Rescue? Better get the Chopper started.

I've met and helped the guy who did it on a 5'6" sailboat, Hugo Vihlen. It was actaully his second trip across the Atlantic in a very small boat. He first did it in 1968 on a 6' homebuilt plywood sailboat. Then some crazy (or should I say -crazier-) Britt did it on a 5'10" boat, so Hugo had a custom boat built, fiberglass and foam, but only 5'6" and did it again!

Hugo is a former Marine and retired Delta Captain who flew out of Miami. I went through Air Force Pilot Training with his son Dana, that's how I got involved with his second attempt.

We had to do some "fine tuning" in my driveway when I lived up in NH because his boat's CG was way off. We had to find some lead bird shot at a hunting supply store, drill a hole in the upper, hollow part of his keel, and dump in about 250lbs. more lead using a hose and funnel.

We then took the boat back to a local marina and test floated it again, then they loaded up and took it up to Nova Scotia to launch it because the US Coast Guard FORBID him to depart from any US port and threatened to impound his boat if they caught him trying. Called it an "Unseaworthy Vessel".

He wrote books about both crossings, "April Fool" was the first one and "The Stormy Voyage of Father's Day" was the second book.

Hugo's boats were both basically round balls with a mast and sail and a cabin so he could get in out of the storms. He said it was like being inside a 50 gallon drum with people beating it with sticks, the noise and motion made sleep impossible. He installed a seatbelt and he padded the entire inside with foam to keep from getting his brains bashed out, a lesson he learned from the first crossing.

It's a good story and available in paper back if you are looking for something different.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_b?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=Hugo+Vihlen&x=11&y=20


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Re: RTI [Re: Timbo] #183410
06/29/09 06:02 AM
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Results linky?

I still have this distance racing thing in the back of my mind. Would those of you (F16 sailors)who did this race give us the full details? Good and bad. 100 miles on a F16 sounds like a full day.

Last edited by pgp; 06/29/09 06:05 AM.

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Re: RTI [Re: pgp] #183427
06/29/09 08:26 AM
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Pete - the race is around Santa Rosa island. The ICW runs inside the island and the Gulf is on the outside. It is traditionally clockwise rotation beginning in Ft Walton, head East to Destin Pass, South out into the Gulf, turn right and and head West up the Gulf Coast. Pensacola pass is about 40-50 miles on your right, head back East after navigating the pass and sail the ICW all the way back to Ft Walton (traverses the same course as Juana's but longer). There are some narrows that get pretty quirky. It is easy logistically because start/stop are in the same location (assuming you finish) and there are plenty of places to bail out if the wind dies, injury or just plain old tired.

Only a few marks to round, you used to have sail fairly close to the fishing piers to check in, but not any more. Bad weather has caused both legs to be inside and away from the Gulf. The idea is to get the Gulf sailing out of the way before sunset and have a reach/run back to Ft Walton. Some boats this year did not make the 7:00 PM (I think) cutoff at Pensacola Pass.

Some boats were out for 24 hours.

I have not seen results but I know of some times from ppl. Earliest boat was 5:30 PM and I know of one boat at 6:56 AM (wow).


Tom
Re: RTI [Re: pgp] #183428
06/29/09 08:52 AM
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BTW it is now 110 miles with the marks we had to round. smile

It was a good day! Downwind start with light winds. We went out to sea after Destin Pass which was the wrong way-the guys who went to the beach first were faster. Wind built though out the day and it was a beat to Pensacola. Gulf was rough and took a while to figure out that we HAD to lift the hull to get through. (we are lake sailors!) Took us 8.75 hours to round the point then the real fun started!!! Four hours of a downwind run. As the wind came up and the inter coastal water flattened I trapped out and we flew. We had a great duke out with Andy and Mike!! They had chased us down and passed us; then the conditions became just right and we were able to come up on their sterns. Had a better jibe and was able to get away and stay away from them.

Best thing was that we finished into a beautiful setting sun and was on the beach tied down before dark!
It was a good race and the F16's had a great showing. Chris was really hot and finished with the top guys about 1-1.5 hours ahead of us. Our time was 12hours 48 mins. Andy was I would say was about 20 minutes behind us and Jody finished at 14hours.





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Re: RTI [Re: Joanna] #183432
06/29/09 09:17 AM
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I don't know what we're gonna do with Chris, he's on the verge of becoming a rock star!

Glad you had a good time! I'm thinking about this for next year. But, unless everything goes my way, I'll probably bail half way through. smile


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Re: RTI [Re: pgp] #183518
06/29/09 03:49 PM
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OK... who's up for doing it solo next year on their F16?


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