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Posts: 1,152 tampa, fl | That would be cool, but I think they may have some issues with "skinny water". I wouldn't want to run aground on one of those monsters!
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | There you go! Hey, would their masts fit under the Skyway Bridge?? We could have Gulfport as the host club!
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#184750 07/10/09 09:08 AM 07/10/09 09:08 AM |
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Posts: 5,590 Naples, FL | how deep is Tampa bay? 12?
Isn't the Azores pretty calm during certain seasons?
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Posts: 1,307 Asuncion, Paraguay | They will probably choose a calm secluded bay in the Mediterranean, with high statistic probability of low winds and as difficult to fly from the US as possible. Maybe somewhere in Greece? Anyone knows calm windless bays in the Mediterranean? The south of France, Corsica, Sardignia, Baleares and northern Italy and Spain on the med side are way too risky for wind conditions. Greece is mostly too windy as well, unless you are in a lee of a big island where the problem is gusts. South Italy and south of Spain are possible. Valencia, Naples or Palermo for example. Malta is probably too exposed, but would fit your criteria as being difficult to get to from the US. Venice or other cities in the north of the adriatic sea are good candidates: Flat water, usual low wind, close to Switzerland... As close as a lake as you can be. If it's good enough for X40, why not AC multihulls... Some place in northern Africa may be suitable, there are some nice quiet areas in Tunisia for example, but they may lack the necessary infrastructure to accommodate two 100ft multihulls monsters... I'd pick Venice as well. Besides matching the "technical" criteria, the advertising and touristic potential of the competition would be maximized, while the contrast between new and old would provide the opportunity for unique photos. A famous light wind venue in the other hemisphere would be Rio... Just daylight dreaming.
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Posts: 9,582 North-West Europe | I've always been in favor of bringing back the "Nationality Rule" where the boat and all the crew must come from the named country. It was much more interesting then. Now it's just about who can buy the best skipper/crew.
It will also be grossly unfair. Afterall there is some federation of 50 states with the same number of inhabitants and marine resources like yards as the whole of Europe combined. I would probably support such a nationality rule if each US state would be identified as a seperate entity. Wouter
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Aren't they already? You obviously don't live here. US Sail Level 2 Instructor US Sail Level 3 Coach | | | Re: Alinghi's catamaran revealed today!
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | I've always been in favor of bringing back the "Nationality Rule" where the boat and all the crew must come from the named country. It was much more interesting then. Now it's just about who can buy the best skipper/crew.
It will also be grossly unfair. Afterall there is some federation of 50 states with the same number of inhabitants and marine resources like yards as the whole of Europe combined. I would probably support such a nationality rule if each US state would be identified as a seperate entity. Wouter Wouter, "Grossly Unfair"? How so? Most of our States could care less about America's Cup racing, they are much more into NASCAR. Only a couple places in our country, like San Francisco, San Diego, and of course the location where it was held for many years, Newport, RI would care to sponsor such an event. I thought the Cup match itself, going back to the original, first race, was intended to put one country's Best ship and crew up against another country's Best ship and crew, see who wins. It's not a Handicap event. You don't get extra points for being a small country. Still, the Aussies took the Cup from Dennis, and their country is what, 10% the population of the USA? Good on them! I was proud of them, they did it fair and square, using their own blood, and did a great job of it, they deserved the win. And then the Kiwi's, all great for the sport. But then the checkbooks came out and it became just another big boat regatta as far as I'm concerned, with no national pride in the outcome. I'll watch the big multi's this time, because I'm a multi fanatic like everyone here, but as far as who do I want to win? I couldn't care less. I don't even know who is on what team, nor do I care. Bring back the Nationality rules and I will pay more attention. Until then, it's just a big, expensive, Multihull race and other than the two owners, who cares who wins?
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | Well, there you go. Thanks, I forgot about that already, which just proves my point.
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Posts: 5,590 Naples, FL | Is Somalia going to put up a AC challenger?
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It will also be grossly unfair. Afterall there is some federation of 50 states with the same number of inhabitants and marine resources like yards as the whole of Europe combined.
The EU nationality arguably already exists, so a EU challenge is possible.
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Posts: 9,582 North-West Europe | The EU nationality arguably already exists, so a EU challenge is possible.
But that still wouldn't be fair to a nation like New Zealand or Brazil that are alot smaller then 300 to 350 million inhabitants. Wouter
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Posts: 976 France | The EU nationality arguably already exists[...] Hu. No. Sorry. The EU is not a nation. It's a comglomerate of nations with different views of what Europe is. Some use their own currency, some use the Euro, some have border control with other EU nations, some don't. The only thing we have in common is an open and free circulation of goods. | | | Re: Alinghi's catamaran revealed today!
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Posts: 2,921 Michigan | the Somalian flag flying, do they actually have a flag? | | | Re: Alinghi's catamaran revealed today!
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#184888 07/11/09 11:47 AM 07/11/09 11:47 AM |
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Posts: 115 | Wouter Just a small remark: Brazil has 200Million , some of the best sailors in the Worlds too: Torben Grael and Robert Scheidt for ie. Note I´m Argentine  (strong football rivalry against BR), here we have only 40 millions, but we could participate in next AC cup with the Matador crew + Lange + Juan K (Volvo 70) as designer. But no better example than "little" New Zealand with world best sailor and rugbiers to realize that quantity and huge resources are not always the key. | | | Re: Alinghi's catamaran revealed today!
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Posts: 1,307 Asuncion, Paraguay | The EU nationality arguably already exists, so a EU challenge is possible.
But that still wouldn't be fair to a nation like New Zealand or Brazil that are alot smaller then 300 to 350 million inhabitants. I guess Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay, Paraguay, Chile and Bolivia could (finally) put the Mercosur nationality to some use in order to reduce the disadvantage.
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