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managing chaos #185391
07/17/09 07:40 AM
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One of the spots on the course that I have the most difficulty negotiating gracefully is A mark roundings in a breeze. On a spin boat how do you manage all of the things that need to get done (dagger boards, jib, downhaul, rotation)? I've pretty much got it together except for the leeward dagger board. When rounding A in double trap conditions, What is the best order to accomplish tasks in?


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Re: managing chaos [Re: ksurfer2] #185393
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That depends. What kind of boat, what wind etc

downhaul, jib and rotation are things that can be done after you get the spin up and are powered up, or can be done before you get to the offset mark. I would say crew first pulls up daggers but if it is windy then your daggers are already up. most important part is to keep the boat moving and get the chute up asap. The crew can give the spin sheet to the skipper for a few seconds to then do the remaining things.

Re: managing chaos [Re: pitchpoledave] #185395
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F-18 (Infusion). Winds double trap strength +.


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Re: managing chaos [Re: ksurfer2] #185402
07/17/09 08:55 AM
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Karl you can ask Kathy tomorrow when you see her but from the back of the boat it looks like she is doing this:

- in off the trap
- windward board up
- rotator off (we have a quick release)
- spin up
- I sheet and trim until her check list is complete
- cunningham off
- jib eased
- leeward board up
- out on the wire
- sheet is handed off

Of course I'm providing words of encouragement with enthusiasm, things like "quick like a bunny sweetie" or words to that affect which typically triggers and an inaudible response. Word to the wise, don't ask her what she said it's usually something you don't want to hear.

Your mileage and verbal exchanges may vary.

Bring your 'A' game tomorrow pretty boy.


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Re: managing chaos [Re: David Ingram] #185404
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you just have to keep the boat from flipping while she goes down to the leward side to pull it up. I have super crew so I let him handle it all while I just worry about keeping the boat right side up.

But I'm sure Dave's checklist is a good start.

Re: managing chaos [Re: ThunderMuffin] #185411
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Take a tip from the A cats and put a strap between your boards. Skipper gets the leeward board up with a quick tug from the high side while the pressure is off during the turn down to blanket the set.


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Re: managing chaos [Re: John Williams] #185413
07/17/09 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by John Williams
Take a tip from the A cats and put a strap between your boards. Skipper gets the leeward board up with a quick tug from the high side while the pressure is off during the turn down to blanket the set.


I do like that feature. Do you know if anyone has done it on the infusion and does it work well?


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Re: managing chaos [Re: David Ingram] #185415
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Waiting for pics from Worlds...


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After watching Lionel Messi play, I realize I need to sail harder.
Re: managing chaos [Re: David Ingram] #185420
07/17/09 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by David Ingram

Of course I'm providing words of encouragement with enthusiasm, things like "quick like a bunny sweetie"


Is this exactly what i need to say??? verbatim?

Re: managing chaos [Re: ] #185421
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Works on me...


John Williams

- The harder you practice, the luckier you get -
Gary Player, pro golfer

After watching Lionel Messi play, I realize I need to sail harder.
Re: managing chaos [Re: John Williams] #185425
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Thanks John, now I am going to puke...

Re: managing chaos [Re: brucat] #185427
07/17/09 11:21 AM
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LOL

Re: managing chaos [Re: ] #185432
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It's much better than "Hey, Numbnuts - how long before we can go to Ludicrous Speed, hmmm?"


John Williams

- The harder you practice, the luckier you get -
Gary Player, pro golfer

After watching Lionel Messi play, I realize I need to sail harder.
Re: managing chaos [Re: John Williams] #185434
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Ludicrous Speed,


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I knew it!! I'm surrounded by assholes!!!

Re: managing chaos [Re: John Williams] #185435
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Originally Posted by John Williams
It's much better than "Hey, Numbnuts - how long before we can go to Ludicrous Speed, hmmm?"


Not if there's two guys on the boat, it isn't...


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