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Re: Nacra 6.0 What? [Re: Team Chums II] #186043
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I have the trophy.


You probably had one made for yourself. Boatless or "Nutless"? Who cares, get a new boat and talk some more smack beeatch! I can say that since I delivered your first baby (Tiger). Now you gotta put on the catchers mit for this one. Sell your wife's Tahoe and get her a VW so you can get a new boat. Geeze man, do I gotta tell you how to do EVERYTHING!?

Disclaimer: Team Chums has NEVER beat Team Chums II. EVER! Maybe someday but I doubt it.

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Re: Nacra 6.0 What? [Re: Team Chums II] #186046
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I thought that might bring you out of the woodwork Matt.
I didnt say that it wasn't a short lived victory.
I have the printout of the original placement framed on my wall next to my second place trophy. If you like i can email you a copy. I still dont know what the PHRF is on a N5.7.
Congrats on the Baby. Healthy and happy I hope.


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Re: Nacra 6.0 What? [Re: TeamChums] #186047
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Originally Posted by TeamChums
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I have the trophy.


You probably had one made for yourself. Boatless or "Nutless"? Who cares, get a new boat and talk some more smack beeatch! I can say that since I delivered your first baby (Tiger). Now you gotta put on the catchers mit for this one. Sell your wife's Tahoe and get her a VW so you can get a new boat. Geeze man, do I gotta tell you how to do EVERYTHING!?

Disclaimer: Team Chums has NEVER beat Team Chums II. EVER! Maybe someday but I doubt it.


All I can say is that if you want to be down, then you best check out team chums, cause when you down with team chums, you down as can mother f'n be! team chums biotch!!

As for the race, no disrespect to the other teams, they sailed really well. In fact, AZ put on a clinic. Having said that, just using straight up portsmouth numbers without factoring in calcs for square top main sail and added spins on boats normally not equipped as such, we still finished well ahead of all the other boats. I am not sure how in the world the race committee for the border run came up with their figures but they somehow screwed this one up big time! If you run just straight portsmouth numbers it is team chums II, wet kitty, team chums, wild kitty, TheMightyHobie18. If you factor in square top main and spin, it is: team chums II, team chums, wet kitty, wild kitty, TheMightyHobie18. The elapsed time is noted at www.theborderrun.org if anyone doubts my calcs. Not that it really matters, but I do feel bad for Brett given the race committe reported incorrect results at the onset...



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Re: Nacra 6.0 What? [Re: Team Chums II] #186048
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Just talking smack to your teammate. Dont get your undies in a bundle. You smoked all comers.
I hope Santa brings you a new cat for christmas.
Good to hear from you, Sleep well.
P.S. 3:am wiggle the leggs like they're riding a bike till they fart, then its off to a late night snack.


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Re: Nacra 6.0 What? [Re: AzCat] #186052
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would this be the rating you're looking for?


CODE 0-1 2-3 4 5-9

Nacra 5.2 Slp 2-up N5.2 72.1 78.0 74.8 71.6 67.4
Nacra 5.5 Slp 8.5' N5.5 67.0 73.5 69.5 65.7 61.2
Nacra 5.5 Uni 8.5' N5.5U 69.7 74.4 71.9 69.0 64.5
Nacra 5.7 2-up N5.7 72.6 75.5 74.8 72.2 68.6

from here

http://www.ussailing.org/portsmouth/tables08/tables08mh.asp


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Re: Nacra 6.0 What? [Re: AzCat] #186065
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Originally Posted by azcat
Just talking smack to your teammate. Dont get your undies in a bundle. You smoked all comers.
I hope Santa brings you a new cat for christmas.
Good to hear from you, Sleep well.
P.S. 3:am wiggle the leggs like they're riding a bike till they fart, then its off to a late night snack.


Hello Brett,

Thanks for your post. My post above is directed to my delinquent brother in team chums, just haven fun!! It's been good to see new interest in sailing here in az. I just want to be sure you and others know that I did not high jack the race. If you want some rail meat on your new 6.0, just give me a shout. Thanks for your note on the new baby. We are expecting Brayden by Sept 2nd, which is just around the corner!


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Re: Nacra 6.0 What? [Re: erice] #186067
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Originally Posted by Team Chums II
All I can say is that if you want to be down, then you best check out team chums, cause when you down with team chums, you down as can mother f'n be! team chums biotch!!

Westside respect bitch, your sh-t aint down if your posse don't wants to through down with Tri-Point.

Congrats on you upcoming arrival, boy or girl?

Originally Posted by Team Chums II
I am not sure how in the world the race committee for the border run came up with their figures but they somehow screwed this one up big time!


Word!!!! Go over to Sailing Anachary on check out the Border Run thread under Multi-Hull Anacahry. I had made a few inquiries as to how they came up with such screwed up ratings. Two words Mark Michelson, it is all coming clear now? It would be nice if there was a wholesale adoption of a system like TEXCEL. Would certianly take the question out of class legal vs. square top retrofits etc.....


Originally Posted by Buzz258
John you are right, Performance did build eight 6.0s with self tacking jibs for the Worrell. Gary and I owned one of these boats for awhile. I thought the mast was the weakest point on this boat. Boat also had big spinnaker with broad shoulders ... DDW. This boat also came out of the Santa Barbara area and had very little use. Not sure if it raced in the Worrell or not.
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The original owner of this boat had it at a warehouse right around the corner from you. I was just walking into Wells Fargo to get the cash when he called to let me know that boat just sold.

BTW - Am I still banned? And did you vote? Don't forget, as I always say; "vote early and vote often." wink


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Re: Nacra 6.0 What? [Re: Ventucky Red] #186075
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John it is my understanding you were never banned and I did not vote.
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Re: Nacra 6.0 What? [Re: Ventucky Red] #186077
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Originally Posted by Team Chums II
All I can say is that if you want to be down, then you best check out team chums, cause when you down with team chums, you down as can mother f'n be! team chums biotch!!

Westside respect bitch, your sh-t aint down if your posse don't wants to through down with Tri-Point.

Congrats on you upcoming arrival, boy or girl?

Originally Posted by Team Chums II
I am not sure how in the world the race committee for the border run came up with their figures but they somehow screwed this one up big time!


Word!!!! Go over to Sailing Anachary on check out the Border Run thread under Multi-Hull Anacahry. I had made a few inquiries as to how they came up with such screwed up ratings. Two words Mark Michelson, it is all coming clear now? It would be nice if there was a wholesale adoption of a system like TEXCEL. Would certianly take the question out of class legal vs. square top retrofits etc.....



While the OGs may not be there, I think Brad S. may show up; not sure though... Perhaps next year I will be there with a new boat. Do they let hobie waves race? smile

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I am going to look for a 60na mast, and then i'll get a sq top dress for her. then I'll give you a shout and you can show me some tricks.


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Re: Nacra 6.0 What? [Re: Team Chums II] #186081
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Originally Posted by Buzz258
John it is my understanding you were never banned and I did not vote.
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Can't make any post, not that I care too.

Originally Posted by Team Chums II
Originally Posted by johnes
Originally Posted by Team Chums II
All I can say is that if you want to be down, then you best check out team chums, cause when you down with team chums, you down as can mother f'n be! team chums biotch!!

Westside respect bitch, your sh-t aint down if your posse don't wants to through down with Tri-Point.

Congrats on you upcoming arrival, boy or girl?

Originally Posted by Team Chums II
I am not sure how in the world the race committee for the border run came up with their figures but they somehow screwed this one up big time!


Word!!!! Go over to Sailing Anachary on check out the Border Run thread under Multi-Hull Anacahry. I had made a few inquiries as to how they came up with such screwed up ratings. Two words Mark Michelson, it is all coming clear now? It would be nice if there was a wholesale adoption of a system like TEXCEL. Would certianly take the question out of class legal vs. square top retrofits etc.....



While the OGs may not be there, I think Brad S. may show up; not sure though... Perhaps next year I will be there with a new boat. Do they let hobie waves race? smile


Brad is, AAMOF I have his main sail sitting here in my office ready to take to EP for spome repairs. Hobie Wave??? Is it 18' or better

Re: Nacra 6.0 What? [Re: Ventucky Red] #186083
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AZCat - little further info on yer boat. Last spring when I was thinking real hard about buying that boat I had made some inquiries about some upgrades.

One of the things was to add width to the beam of the boat. As noted earlier in the thread there was a 5.8 in our yard that was stretched to a 6.0 and the beam was widened from 8' to 9"3". I was thinking 10' My purpose for this was two fold; the boat wouldn't heal as fast making for a better family platform, give more tramp area making the deck cleaner, but also to exploit the sail plan - think Tornado!!!! There will be some argument on this, but then again this is a personal preference.

The other thing I thought about was doubling up on the diamond wires as earlier mentioned and recommended by Lee Wickland. In doing that I would also going to a heavier wire for the diamonds. My thinking the same width that was used for shrouds. I upgraded the width of the wires with my 5.8 and and honked down to a 1.5" pre-bend and this seemed to have stiffened things up a little - so it seemed. I can't understand why NACRA didn't go to the thicker extrusion. My 5.8 had a "noodle mast" too and is use to bug the daylights out of me. Funny Prindle mast are pretty stout, and my 18-2 mas is a solid as a rock.

I had also looked at about upgrading the spinnaker system to the Inter 20 style snuffer.

The last thing I was thinking about was a square top, but that would have been only after I had thrashed the original sail; which would have been in a few years.

To get the hardware for the beams, mast, and spinnaker snuffer etc... you're looking at about $3K

I know you don't want to turn this into a $10K boat, but!!!!!!

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Re: Nacra 6.0 What? [Re: Ventucky Red] #186199
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I think I will just attempt to beef up the mast or change out the mast to an NA.

Why couldent I run a second set of diamonds up to , say, the spin tang area? Is this due to compression/

Or run a sleeve over or inside the mast to add stiffness?


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Re: Nacra 6.0 What? [Re: AzCat] #186203
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If your gonna change out the mast, why not go carbon?

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