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[Re: arbo06]
#187014 08/04/09 09:40 PM 08/04/09 09:40 PM |
Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 3,224 Roanoke Island ,N.C. Team_Cat_Fever
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Posts: 3,224 Roanoke Island ,N.C. | It moves around a bunch of letters like CE and CLR which can help you point with more rake(to a point) but will also give you more weather helm which you change by rudder rake). With your boards ahead of your X-beam, I wouldn't know what to tell ya,that's just CRAZY,man.
Just put some GUMBO on it.
"I said, now, I said ,pay attention boy!"
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[Re: Isotope235]
#187026 08/05/09 12:57 AM 08/05/09 12:57 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 733 Home is where the harness is..... Will_R
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Posts: 733 Home is where the harness is..... | The daggers and rudders offset the lateral force of the sails. The difference between the rudders and the boards though are that the rudders are on a pivot. By raking aft, the Center of Effort (CE) moves aft, this loads the rudders up. If they are adjusted right and you have little to no helm, you do not increase drag b/c you're not having to pull on the stick to keep the boat going straight. Just like the sails, the boards have a CE and all the loads have to balance some how. Raking the rudders under or out just moves their balance point closer to or further from the pivot point of the rudder and this is what gives you the "feel" of weather or lee helm.
By raking aft, you can (think about going upwind on a sailboard) improve your upwind performance to a point. If it's REALLY windy, rake will also help your "survivability" downwind.
Adjust the mast to the "optimum" for the platform and adjust the rudders to fix any helm issues.
Last edited by Will_R; 08/05/09 01:01 AM.
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[Re: cyberspeed]
#187312 08/07/09 09:10 AM 08/07/09 09:10 AM |
Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 284 Norfolk, VA Dan Berger
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Posts: 284 Norfolk, VA | I just added a lot of rake to my SC15 and (I think) it killed my downwind performance. I did a race a few weeks ago and was about dead even with the Hobie 16s down wind, and I could out point them upwind. With the rake, I can point even higher, but a 16 just walked through me down wind last weekend. I'm between 4 and 5 degrees.
So I was thinking that I could loosen the rig by opening the sidestay adjusters--the hayfield levers for the Supercat righting system. That would let the mast move forward, but I think it would destroy the jib's sailshape. I'm also concerned about safety as the lever may not have been designed for that load. I'm only talking about doing this in medium to light wind.
My boat is set up like Craig's with a self tacker, but I remember his boat (used to be mine!) had a ton of rake.
Dan Berger Norfolk, VA A Cat USA139 Supercat 15
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[Re: Dan Berger]
#187381 08/07/09 09:22 PM 08/07/09 09:22 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 1,911 South Florida & the Keys arbo06 OP
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Posts: 1,911 South Florida & the Keys | Cool, gotcha.. my issue stemmed from the forestay setting being to low, not sure the lever has any effect there. I'll fool with it a bit to see what is up..
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