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TMS20 update #200239
01/10/10 05:49 PM
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Thought I壇 do another update bringing my project into the new year and news from The Man Shed.

New Name - Goals
I will be changing the name to TMS Composites. I知 in the process of doing the legal paperwork now. Currently the website is still themanshed.net . I知 doing this as I bring the project more into line as a business. My goal is to have the TMS-20 finished and in the water in 2010. The doc has released me on my shoulder and I知 feeling much better still sore at times but I suspect that is something that I値l have for years to come. I bought a bowflex to put in the shop to work my shoulder out with, as it gets stiff if I do not work it every few days, and god knows I could easily use to drop 50 or more pounds. So those are my goals for the year.

TMS 20
I致e finally fared out the hull enough to my liking. I知 starting to work on building the bowsprit mold and will be cutting foam strip for the second half of the hull as soon as it warms up. I値l post a few pictures of the fared out hull then move on.

Composite Tubing
I am going to make the mold for the bowsprit out of PVC pipe. I値l cut the pipe in half the glue on a flat section to make two pieces that are ス round then flat on the bottom. I値l wrap several layers of cloth around the curve and on the flat surface but not joined to form a complete semicircle. That way I can peel it back some to remove the PVC. Once the two sides are formed and dry I値l glass the flat sides together and lay some glass in the middle to form a circle with a flange in the middle that will be the length of the tube. When that is dry I will have a composite tube that I can wrap glass around to build up my thickness. To 澱ag the outside wrap I値l use the plastic heat shrink tubing to compress the lay-up. I feel that by doing it this way I do not have to worry about removing the lay-up from a mold or core and I値l have a nice flange the length of the tube for stiffness. The bowsprit is 6' long if this works well I'll use the same method for the beams they will be 17' long.

Beer Hammer
X-Mas gift from my son picture says it all! I guess you never have too many tools.



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View of the Bow and foredeck
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G-Cat 5.7 - Current Boat
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Re: TMS20 update [Re: TheManShed] #200240
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Pipe cut in half beginning of mold.

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Re: TMS20 update [Re: TheManShed] #200305
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I checked out cardboard tube companies several months ago and they wanted $900 min to set up a run to make a tube, so I forgot about the tube idea.

I was given a new idea today at Home Depot the guy suggest to check out carpet stores for carpet roll tubes....Great idea!

I'll be calling on a friend of mine that owns a carpet store. Form the carbon on a cardboard tube, soak it in water and the cardboard will come out.

Later,

Mike


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Re: TMS20 update [Re: TheManShed] #200306
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Hammer is also good idea for also keeping crew in line...I will have to test it out next time I am by TMS.

I need to swing by once to finish cleaning up the bottom of the Supercat 20. The keys beaches really suck. Ground Coral instead of sand. Hopefully get the boat out on the water Sunday. Supposed to be near 80 degrees. Come on heat!


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HAMMER TIME!
hulls are lookin great

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Craig,

I'm off Thurs and Fri this week and next I have to use some leave at work or loose it. Next week is the is the Ferrari event at the race track.

Later


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Yep I tried the hammer out works great!

Gives a new meaning to hammering a few down.


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Re: TMS20 update [Re: TheManShed] #200365
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Hey Mikey,

Let me know your schedule for Cavallino so I can leave it open. I have a media hard card for the track so you won't need to use one of your track tickets for me. Looks like you will get a track tour.

Event Information >>>

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I'm looking forward to it and seeing the changes at the track, where is the Champagne tent?


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Went by the shed and finished touching up the bottom. It is as good as it needs to be to put her back on the beach. Just need to replace standing rigging and she is ready.


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I'll be around tomorrow. There is a guy in Stuart that does CnC work I may go see and another dude with a carbon fab shop but it will not be an early start in the morning.

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Re: TMS20 update [Re: TheManShed] #200450
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very interesting, i've got some carbon working coming up and it's all good gen.


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Who does the CnC work in Stuart? Used to live there...


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Mike is it Mark Willis?

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Yes never made it today do you know him? Merritt Marine Supply gave me his name as a shop that does CNC work.


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Today I decided I had to make a rack to hang the hull so I could use my bench. I had some racks I built for the G-Cat hull work that I kept so I modified them. Here are shots of the TMS-20 that have not been available in the past.

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More...The bulkhead are temp and will be removed when composite bulkheads are built.

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long profile.JPG (82 downloads)
fiber where beam will go.JPG (81 downloads)
Extra lay-up for beam.

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The Shed and the Man .....Just a passion and a dream to build a boat!

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Ha! - I am a real person, just a real dude, not some big corp or a company in China.

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MikeMark is an acquaintance of mine...spent a little time with him and his girlfriend four or five times over a number of years...(known his long time girl friend for 30 years)...have known his office manager for 30 years and use to windsurf with one of his top carpenters. Everyone from his friends to his competitors, clients to employees, speak very highly of him.. I do know he is well respected within the industry for his custom sports fishing boats, many of which are in the multimillion dollar range...top quality. Among a number of other projects, he has been using his five axis CNC router to make high end cold mold boat kits to build an 18.5' flats/bay boat of his own design.
To give you an idea what kind of heart this guy has, my windsurfing buddy Don, asked him about a piece of mahogany that I could use to build a chambered hollow body electric guitar, Mark, also being a guitar lover, "gave" me a huge piece of mahogany (around 3" X 14" X 24") for a guitar body not a cracked checked piece from the end, but had Don cherry pick a premium piece out of the center of a 13 long plank (if memory serves me correctly), Not trying to delude you into thinking that he does this for everyone...yes times were better then but regardless...most would want an arm and a leg for a solid piece of mahogany that size... I greatly appreciated his generosity.

Mark reputation for quality is second to none, if you use him for your project he will not disappoint.
It just so happens I saw an article with a section about him and his CNC business in Professional Boat Builder Magazine #121 October/November 2009 Pg 64-67.

Regards,
Bob Hall

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Thanks Bob that makes me feel good I'm still looking at CnC as an option for a plug for ama's. Then perhaps for the main hull down the road.


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G-Cat 5.7 - Current Boat
NACRA 5.2 - early 70's


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