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Re: America's Cup Countdown [Re: catman] #202928
02/11/10 09:10 PM
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http://bmworacleracing.com/en/news/.../current/overview.html&track.type=sn Says 5am central time. Don't miss an hour of it! That is the Oracle site.

Doug

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Re: America's Cup Countdown [Re: JACKFLASH] #202929
02/11/10 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by JACKFLASH
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volvo tris?

no such thing Doug.

You talking ORMA 60 tris?


I guess that is it. But aren't they tough and didn't they take some good sized seas? Why are these boats so fragile?

Doug


One reason these boats are more fragile is because they were built to the lightest possible weight as light air was a distinct possibility for a race. Secondly it hard to compare the dependability of an ORMA Tri to a try with a 7000 square foot main sail (wing). I am not good at conversions but my understanding is that the wing around a couple of hundred feet long? Whats an ORMA tri? 125? 100??


I think you should rephrase it to "boat so fragile."

Tony, don't defend that since most were 1 mile out and it was nice, doesn't mean they shouldn't race 20 miles out. You were there; are you telling me you wouldn't go out 20nm in that?

They are race boats that should be able to take the seas. If the sailors have to slow them down a bit to get around the course so be it. We all have to do that in big seas. BTW, an Alinghi affiliate jacked our boat for tomorrow...........But for you tech buffs, we have the creators of the laser doppler technology, and we're gonna do a demonstration after we are there for the USA17 dock-out. And there's more

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Re: America's Cup Countdown [Re: ] #202930
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BTW, an Alinghi affiliate jacked our boat for tomorrow.


I bet that went over real well.


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Re: America's Cup Countdown [Re: ] #202931
02/11/10 09:38 PM
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I'm looking at the forecast again and it's changed pretty dramatically. Low and behold, 10am looks beeeeaaaauuuutiful. 14 to 16 out of the NNW and relatively stable and consistent.

Guess what though? by 1pm, a shadow eases off the coast dropping wind speed. The wind gets much less stable and by 3pm, it's dead and fluky all over.

That 2 hour postponement may not look like such a bright idea when viewed in hindsight tomorrow afternoon.


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Re: America's Cup Countdown [Re: Jake] #202936
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JC:
Im going on the information the Pro gave at the press-conference that the conditions changed significantly once you got passed the 5nm point.
The fact that Ehman was out on the RC boat and hasnt said a word about this, he is usually not very shy, to me confirms that conditions where different than 1nm offshore (rumour is that he got seasick?)

Where are you hanging out today? I'll come over and say hi.

Re: America's Cup Countdown [Re: Tony_F18] #202937
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Well this is just ridiculous :
"From the committee boat.....wind direction and speed at WW mark: 340° 7 knots and at committee boat: 335° 6 knots, so we will be waiting for the forecast southerly which some forecasts have arriving early to mid afternoon."

So there`s a 5 deg and 1knot variation over a 20mile leg, and they would rather wait for a 180deg windswitch which MIGHT happen later this afternoon, so it can get all unstable and they can postpone it again, perhaps to October.

In the conditions they have RIGHT NOW they could be doing 20-30knots boatspeed and have a race in the bag in 2 hours, before the windswitch happens. Then, if they were proper sailors, they could have another race in the afternoon. Only they couldn`t because the sailing instructions say they need an extended tea-break after each exhausting race day (on which they don`t race), like until some time next week, when the weather is better.

This AC will go down in history as a huge farce, and it has nothing to do with the boats. Sad.

Re: America's Cup Countdown [Re: Steve_Kwiksilver] #202938
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Nah, I think (hope) we'll look back and see the delays as only a small inconvenience in our lives. Yeah, they could probably be racing now...they could be racing better later...They WILL race. I'm cool with it and just anxious to see these guys go at it.


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Re: America's Cup Countdown [Re: Steve_Kwiksilver] #202939
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better look here for the proper numbers:
http://www.americascup.com/en/actualite/twitter/
with these numbers you can understand the postponement.
There is a lot of noise and wrong numbers around at the moment. Heard also somewhere that last Wednesday the wave height was rather 1-2m instead of 1.2m.
As usual, you can't judge the weather conditions if you aren't there (right on the water).

Cheers,

Klaus

Re: America's Cup Countdown [Re: Smiths_Cat] #202941
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get ready guys, switch your tv on, looks like racing today

Re: America's Cup Countdown [Re: Smiths_Cat] #202943
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Still have no clue who will win, Alinghi doing 17-18 upwind in 5-6 at the moment.
DZ crew chilling on deck (no pun intended).
First video of A5 tacking, cool.

Hope they start soon!

Re: America's Cup Countdown [Re: Tony_F18] #202944
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Start at 14:10 CET that is in 20 minutes from now.

Wouter


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Re: America's Cup Countdown [Re: Wouter] #202945
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Ellison has gotten off the BMWO tri,Ernesto appears to still be on Alinghy 5.

Wouter


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Re: America's Cup Countdown [Re: Wouter] #202946
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mark roundings to starboard (wrong way around)

Alinghy is doing a show pre-start, BMWO is sitting lame like a duck doing nothing.

Wouter


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Re: America's Cup Countdown [Re: Wouter] #202947
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starboard start mark is 200 upwind to the pin end, so the commentators expect both boats to go the right of the start area in pre-start phase.

Weather is looking good.

Streaming video :

http://bmworacleracing.com/en/news/.../current/overview.html&track.type=sn


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Re: America's Cup Countdown [Re: Wouter] #202948
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BMWO is finally sheeting their sails in ! And have unrolled their genoa

Boats are manouvring !

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Re: America's Cup Countdown [Re: Wouter] #202949
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Originally Posted by Wouter


mark roundings to starboard (wrong way around)

Alinghy is doing a show pre-start, BMWO is sitting lame like a duck doing nothing.

Wouter

well with a rigid wing, you can stand without flogging a sail...
BMWO is steeting ist sails now


Re: America's Cup Countdown [Re: Smiths_Cat] #202950
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both a sailing now, 16mins til start

Re: America's Cup Countdown [Re: Wouter] #202951
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2.5 min to AP down.

then 10 min to start


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Re: America's Cup Countdown [Re: Wouter] #202952
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5 to 6 knots of breeze on 20 nm race course



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Re: America's Cup Countdown [Re: Wouter] #202953
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Originally Posted by Wouter


Ellison has gotten off the BMWO tri,Ernesto appears to still be on Alinghy 5.

Wouter

Ernesto is helming so it helps to stay on the boat. wink

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