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What F18 would you buy? #202713
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If you had the option to buy any F18 on the market which would you buy and why?

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Re: What F18 would you buy? [Re: iansammis] #202715
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The full carbon one that weighs 100 kilos.

wait...


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Re: What F18 would you buy? [Re: John Williams] #202720
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The one I could afford, so I could go sailing..

Re: What F18 would you buy? [Re: Rolf_Nilsen] #202722
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Re: What F18 would you buy? [Re: Tornado_ALIVE] #202765
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If money is an issue a good used Tiger can be about $8000

If buying new then money cannot be an issue, C2, WildCat, Infusion (Hulls made overseas). You know the Infusion so you will not have to relearn how to tune it. The other two boats still need more flushing to figure out. All of them are fast. All are just about the same price, maybe within $1000.

You have a spot in the yard don't you? Now just throw a dart blindfolded if you cannot choose.

Later,
Dan

Re: What F18 would you buy? [Re: Dan_Delave] #202767
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DON'T throw a DART! Jezus. A Dart hitting an F18 would make an awful mess.


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Re: What F18 would you buy? [Re: Dan_Delave] #202796
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Originally Posted by Dan_Delave

You have a spot in the yard don't you? Now just throw a dart blindfolded if you cannot choose.

Later,
Dan


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Re: What F18 would you buy? [Re: John Williams] #202812
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Originally Posted by John Williams
DON'T throw a DART! Jezus. A Dart hitting an F18 would make an awful mess.

An F18 hitting a Dart also makes an awful mess.
(dont ask me how I know).

Re: What F18 would you buy? [Re: iansammis] #202829
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Originally Posted by iansammis
If you had the option to buy any F18 on the market which would you buy and why?
Ha, suppose I can play here too

what? If I lived at your house C2...since I don't Wildcat (could race the possible Hobie event)

why? C2 and Wildcat being second generations of the two builders they have to be as good, or slightly better, right? (sure Infusion is same category but the other two are newer)
If the grey matter between my ears thinks I've bought the best possible product, I can forget about that mess and just race wink

Get 'em Ian


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Re: What F18 would you buy? [Re: iansammis] #202858
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which ever manufacturer, you think, will give you the best support both on the spares/warranty side and on the sailing team/coaching/at the races support side.


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Re: What F18 would you buy? [Re: TEAMVMG] #202859
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Originally Posted by TEAMVMG
which ever manufacturer, you think, will give you the best support both on the spares/warranty side and on the sailing team/coaching/at the races support side.


That post right there is the best one yet!


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Originally Posted by David Ingram
Originally Posted by TEAMVMG
which ever manufacturer, you think, will give you the best support both on the spares/warranty side and on the sailing team/coaching/at the races support side.


That post right there is the best one yet!


+1. I bought my Infusion based upon accessibility to the dealer and parts in my area, at the time of my purchase. (This situation has since become more competitive with an AHPC dealer entering the area now.)

All F-18's are quite competitive between brands. Tigers tend to be a little heavier and the design getting a little dated, but no great shakes on performance differences overall. All the others are mostly the same. Hardware on the AHPC boat is a little more refined, but they all have their quirky differences.

A good skipper and crew make the difference on the F18, not the boat. Look at last year's Tybee-Heemskirk won sailing on a Tiger-(annihilating the rest of the competion)...sooo it ain't the boat; it's the nut on the tiller that usually makes the difference.


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Re: What F18 would you buy? [Re: rexdenton] #203212
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If I could have waited a year to buy the C2 instead of the Infusion I would have... strictly for the build quality and manufacturer support.
I guess that's the name of the game though.

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So sell the Infusion!
If you want to be in it a top level, you should be changing the boat every year anyhow.


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After watching the AC33 coverage I'd go with the Wildcat or C2 . Can I get them with a wing?


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Re: What F18 would you buy? [Re: F-18 5150] #203431
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Originally Posted by hobie18rich
After watching the AC33 coverage I'd go with the Wildcat or C2 . Can I get them with a wing?


The Infusion was designed by the same guys that designed BMWO....


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Re: What F18 would you buy? [Re: macca] #203440
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Right now i'd still get a infusion over a WildCat or C2, the infusion is the best developed and least to have problems with.

The C2 looks very nice but id wait at least 6 months more like a year actually before buying so that any teethin troubles will of been iorned out.

The WildCat, i don't like the design of them, they seem to lack volume in the bow, at the windy races at the worlds at lot of teams didnt look comfortable on them.

Re: What F18 would you buy? [Re: NacraKid] #203568
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On the West Coast we are all building wings for the Infusions under Pete Melvin's tutelege. Since it works so well at the AC. With plans in hand and material on the bench, expect to see at least 3 boats at the NAs in Racine with them.

Some may look at the rules and surmiss that this is not a class legal sail...Well to that we say "Rules? We don't need no stinking rules!"

Did I hear someone say "The wing is king?" Thanks for all the fishes.

Later,
Dan

Re: What F18 would you buy? [Re: Dan_Delave] #203596
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Our evil class president will find some loophole to use one himself.
My boat only has 1 season on it (4-5 months) so I think I should be able to get 1 or 2 more on it before selling it to get another boat. The boat will remain competitive at the top U.S. level for that time with a new spinnaker every season and a new jib every season or two. I say U.S. as i'm sure the guys in Europe are getting new sails every other regatta?

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Re: What F18 would you buy? [Re: wildtsail] #203600
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Originally Posted by wildtsail
Our evil class president will find some loophole to use one himself.


Dude, that hurts my feelings I really like you guys... well Brenden anyway. Oh by the way, I cruched the numbers again on your measurement cert and none of your sails measure in... it's weird how that happened.


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