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Are there wings for a Nacra 5.8? #203973
02/20/10 10:15 AM
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I can find information about the wings for a Nacra 6.0 but I was wondering if there are wings for a N5.8. Where can I find info about them?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Are there wings for a Nacra 5.8? [Re: Rusty] #203974
02/20/10 10:41 AM
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Should work the same.

The wings I've seen for a 6.0 slid into a modified end plug of the crossbars.

You're modding a 5.8? With wings?


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Re: Are there wings for a Nacra 5.8? [Re: Todd_Sails] #204023
02/21/10 08:18 AM
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I have a N5.8 that I recreation sail. I am thinking about getting a Hobie Getaway but I am comparing it to keeping the N5.8 and adding wings. If I am going to keep the N5.8 the other thing I may want to do it see if a mast top float can work as I often sail the boat solo now.

Todd......Do you know if the crossbars or a 5.8 and 6.0 are the same distance apart? I tried to think of that and compare tramps to get an idea but did not see any measurements that would tell me.

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Rusty

Re: Are there wings for a Nacra 5.8? [Re: Rusty] #204024
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Rusty,

I don't pretend to be an expert on the 5.8's/6.0's.

I owned my own 6.0 (see avatar) for many years, spin rigged most of the time.

I thought the crossbars, tramp, etc. were the same.

The mast head float, IMHO, insn't really needed, much anyway. Only if you know the top half of the mast leaks, and will fill quickly when capsized.

The performance differences between a Getaway and a 5.8 are enormous. I understand it's for recreational purposes, but then again, if you didn't want a large stable platform, that's fast, you'd get a sunfish.

Do you feel you need the wings that much? (I'm now recalling the first time I was driving, double trapped from the wing, on a TheMightyHobie18 magnum.)

If your mast floats at the top, the mast head float will do little. This is coming from someone that never used one however. I'm sure it would help anyway, some, when righting the boat.

Your 5.8 is larger (tramp space), quicker on all points, and IMHO a better choice than a Getaway. (I always thought the name 'getaway' was fitting)

If you have the 5.8 as you say, like it, there you go.

I had a friend back in Texas, who had modded a P19, with custom made wings. He did an awesome job, reall nice set up.

As far as cruising and wings goes, the H21 sport cruiser would be my choice. 8'6" beam, no telescoping crossbars, and a TheMightyHobie18 mast and sail (I think).


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Re: Are there wings for a Nacra 5.8? [Re: Todd_Sails] #204030
02/21/10 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Todd B.


Your 5.8 is larger (tramp space), quicker on all points, and IMHO a better choice than a Getaway. (I always thought the name 'getaway' was fitting)

As far as cruising and wings goes, the H21 sport cruiser would be my choice. 8'6" beam, no telescoping crossbars, and a TheMightyHobie18 mast and sail (I think).


Since you obviously don't know much about the Hobie product line, let me interject. The 21 has its own rig.

As far as the Getaway is concerned... it's a great boat for piling a bunch of people on and recreationally sailing. It's hard to pitchpole, it has several safety features built-in, making it a great boat for sailing with kids. Sure, it's not the fastest thing on the water, but you can load it and drive it up onto a beach, and virtually not worry about damaging the hulls.

And believe it or not, most of the new customers that walk through my doors don't want to go balls to the wall all the time. I can't tell you how many times a fleet member took out someone for a demo sail on their Hobie 16, and they never showed up again because it was 'too fast'. As soon as people would recognize this simple fact, we could probably get more sailors on cats.

I had an early Getaway as a demo boat when I worked at O'Neills and routinely took it out in 25-30 knots and huge swell. It's amazingly controllable in those conditions. I clocked over 16 knots routinely without even trying.

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Re: Are there wings for a Nacra 5.8? [Re: SurfCityRacing] #204033
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Ummm, watch this....????


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Re: Are there wings for a Nacra 5.8? [Re: engineer] #204036
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That wasn't a pitchpole.

That was two people who weren't holding on.

The boat recovered by itself, but because the people fell off - and the mainsheet was cleated - the boat flipped over.

They were lucky it did, and didn't just sail away from them.

Re: Are there wings for a Nacra 5.8? [Re: engineer] #204044
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Originally Posted by engineer
Ummm, watch this....???


Ummm, yeah. What's your point? I didn't say 'couldn't pitchpole', I said 'it's hard to pitchpole'.

As my friend Jay said when I asked him if the Lightspeed 32 could pitch, he said with a smirk, "every boat can pitchpole under the right circumstances."

If the skipper of that boat would have been hanging on, the boat would have stuffed, stopped, come up and continued sailing.

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Re: Are there wings for a Nacra 5.8? [Re: Rusty] #204051
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Let me explain where I am coming from. I have a H14 I think I am going to sell and go to a wave for single handing. I am a 55 year old that started sailing/racing Hobies when there was only a 14 and a Nacra 5.2 before there was a 5.8. Now I don't race so much but like to take day long cruises, usually solo. Winds 5-12knots, sometimes more. I do like to double trap with the wife about 3 times a summer I can get her out on the boat. Since I have the 5.8 the choice becomes modify her because the boat is bullet proof, or sell it and get a Hobie Getaway with wings. I aappreciate all the advice so far.

Re: Are there wings for a Nacra 5.8? [Re: Rusty] #204056
02/21/10 11:42 PM
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If you sail -- or have sailed -- the Wave, just to try it, kinda wish you'd post something to compare the two. Always been curious.

Doesn't the 5.8 have the flip-up daggerboards? You'd miss those if so...

Wouldn't that have been a bigger shock if that Getaway with the mainsheet stuck down had not laid over and the thing had sailed off...

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Re: Are there wings for a Nacra 5.8? [Re: SurfCityRacing] #204058
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Originally Posted by SurfCityRacing
Originally Posted by engineer
Ummm, watch this....???


Ummm, yeah. What's your point? I didn't say 'couldn't pitchpole', I said 'it's hard to pitchpole'.

As my friend Jay said when I asked him if the Lightspeed 32 could pitch, he said with a smirk, "every boat can pitchpole under the right circumstances."

If the skipper of that boat would have been hanging on, the boat would have stuffed, stopped, come up and continued sailing.


No point, I just thought it looked to go under a little too easy, but yeah, it did recover.

This is what seems to happen if your braced for it
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Re: Are there wings for a Nacra 5.8? [Re: JJ_] #232188
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I have purchased a Getaway and took it out on a day with 10-15k winds. I was sort of expecting it to be VERY sluggish compared to my Nacra 5.8. I was pleased with the performance of the Getaway. It is not the Nacra but it does ride well, pierces waves and is low maintenance. I will miss my Nacra 5.8 BUT, now it is time for a change. PS, I love the wings.

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